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02-05-2017, 08:06 AM
RE: Climate Change - General Discussion
In a comment this morning at Free The Animal, an excellent description of post World War II science.

Science fails when adopting a creed.

Think climate science and nutrition science.
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02-05-2017, 08:27 AM
RE: Climate Change - General Discussion
(02-05-2017 08:06 AM)Walter Wrote:  In a comment this morning at Free The Animal, an excellent description of post World War II science.

Science fails when adopting a creed.

Think climate science and nutrition science.

For fucks sake you idiot, post links to studies or something. Just throwing shit to see what sticks isn't anything to do with science.

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02-05-2017, 09:29 AM
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I saw a bit on CBS This Morning about one unusual effect of climate change. According to a British scientist, we can expect turbulence on cross-Atlantic flights to increase two to three times over the present average by 2100.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/research-sev...lot-plane/
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02-05-2017, 09:49 AM (This post was last modified: 02-05-2017 09:57 AM by Kaneda.)
RE: Climate Change - General Discussion
(02-05-2017 09:29 AM)Thoreauvian Wrote:  I saw a bit on CBS This Morning about one unusual effect of climate change. According to a British scientist, we can expect turbulence on cross-Atlantic flights to increase two to three times over the present average by 2100.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/research-sev...lot-plane/

Nothing to worry about. At the rate we're burning through the world's oil reserves, I don't think there are going to be any cross-atlantic flights to take by 2100.

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02-05-2017, 06:08 PM
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(02-05-2017 09:49 AM)Kaneda Wrote:  At the rate we're burning through the world's oil reserves, I don't think there are going to be any cross-atlantic flights to take by 2100.

Peak oil has been delayed by fracking innovations. For now, we have plenty of oil again.
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02-05-2017, 09:04 PM
RE: Climate Change - General Discussion
(02-05-2017 06:08 PM)Thoreauvian Wrote:  
(02-05-2017 09:49 AM)Kaneda Wrote:  At the rate we're burning through the world's oil reserves, I don't think there are going to be any cross-atlantic flights to take by 2100.

Peak oil has been delayed by fracking innovations. For now, we have plenty of oil again.

Improved extraction techniques only exacerbate the likelihood of running out over the next few decades. Fracking may make previously more difficult to reach fuel more accessible but it doesn't increase the supply. Population growth, increased per capita consumption, and a non renewable resource equals we're fucked. It's going to be extracted, it's going to be burnt, it's going into the atmosphere, and we're going to run out.
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02-05-2017, 09:53 PM
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Has anyone noticed a lot of articles coming out lately showing genuine enthusiasm for tinkering with the climate - I mean Geoengineering? It seems like just a few months ago you'd be hard pressed to find anyone with anything positive to say on the matter, and now it's being lauded everywhere. Check out what I was able to find with a basic Google search, almost all from the past month:


"Proposed Test Heats up the Debate on Solar Geoengineering"
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news...180962745/

"Solar Geoengineering Study Could Offer Quick Fix for Climate Change"
http://www.lifegate.com/people/news/sola...ring-study

"Harvard is Launching the Largest Solar Geoengineering Study Ever"
http://www.theinertia.com/environment/ha...tudy-ever/

"Harvard Researchers are Preparing to Geoengineer the Atmosphere"
https://www.seeker.com/earth/climate/har...atmosphere

"More Scientists Supporting Research into Arctic Geoengineering"
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Voices/2017/...492113286/

"Everything You Need to Know About Geoengineering"
http://www.popsci.com/everything-you-nee...ngineering

"Can Hacking the Planet Stop Runaway Climate Change?"
http://www.nbcnews.com/mach/environment/...ge-n752221

"Rules for Geoengineering the Planet"
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/60418...he-planet/

"Decline of the Great Barrier Reef Provokes Calls for Geoengineering" https://www.seeker.com/earth/climate/dec...techniques

"Tests for Safe Geoengineering Should Start Now"
http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/04/132587.html

"Fear of Solar Geoengineering is Healthy, But Don't Distort Our Research"
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/...-distorted

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02-05-2017, 10:14 PM
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"Hacking the planet"

lol

ok
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03-05-2017, 03:23 AM
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(02-05-2017 09:04 PM)ImFred Wrote:  Improved extraction techniques only exacerbate the likelihood of running out over the next few decades. Fracking may make previously more difficult to reach fuel more accessible but it doesn't increase the supply. Population growth, increased per capita consumption, and a non renewable resource equals we're fucked. It's going to be extracted, it's going to be burnt, it's going into the atmosphere, and we're going to run out.

The problem is that the ice meltoff in Greenland and other areas in North America, Europe, and Asia around the Arctic Circle will inevitably expose more areas for oil exploration and discovery. It's almost another positive feedback loop all by itself.
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03-05-2017, 03:25 AM
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"President Donald Trump may pull the United States out of the Paris Agreement on climate change as early as next week, sources with knowledge of the plans told HuffPost on Tuesday. The historic agreement between 195 countries to cut greenhouse gas emissions and combat climate change, reached in December 2015, is the first global climate accord to include the U.S. and China, the world’s top polluters."

"The Paris Agreement allows for countries to pull out three years after the accord takes effect, meaning the Trump administration could officially withdraw on Nov. 9, 2019, the memo says. The withdrawal would be complete one year later."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/pari...mg00000009
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