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05-07-2017, 01:45 PM
RE: Climate Change - General Discussion
Split off yet another conspiracy theory...

Please let's keep this thread on topic.


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11-07-2017, 06:07 AM
RE: Climate Change - General Discussion
"The real problem is that time and time and time again, psychology researchers have found that trying to scare people into action usually backfires. Presented with the idea that the planet that gives us life might be dying, parts of our brain shut down. We are unable to think logically. Our brain’s limbic system is hard-wired to prioritize these kinds of threats, so we shift into fight-or-flight mode. And because the odds look stacked against us, most choose to flee. If anything, strategies like this make the problem worse. They take people willing to read something like 'The Uninhabitable Earth' and essentially remove them from the pool of people working on real-world solutions."

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http://grist.org/climate-energy/stop-sca...esnt-work/

In response to 'The Uninhabitable Earth' from the New York Magazine:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/201...umans.html
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19-07-2017, 11:09 AM
RE: Climate Change - General Discussion
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me...story.html

scroll down and look at the aerial view
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25-07-2017, 12:39 PM
RE: Climate Change - General Discussion
"The temperature baseline used in the Paris climate agreement may have discounted an entire century's worth of human-caused global warming, a new study has found. Countries in the Paris climate agreement set a target of keeping warming below 2 degrees Celsius by curbing carbon emissions compared to their preindustrial levels. But a new study shows that the preindustrial level used in the agreement, based on temperature records from the late 19th century, doesn't account for a potential century of rising temperatures caused by carbon dioxide emissions. Accounting for those gases, released from about 1750 to 1875, would add another one-fifth of a degree to the baseline temperature, the study found. Published yesterday in Nature Climate Change, the research suggests there's less time than previously believed to address global warming, said Michael Mann, a climatologist at Pennsylvania State University."

https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...s-thought/
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26-07-2017, 06:19 AM
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"While the United States is walking away from the historic Paris Climate Agreement, India is making a bold vow to start selling only electric cars by 2030. India is one of the world's most polluted countries. Its energy department said in a blog post that it has set the 'ambitious' target to stop selling gas-powered vehicles in an attempt to clean up its air. As the country's economy has boomed, new industries and commuters have spewed pollutants in the air at staggering rates. Now, its 1.3 billion residents are suffering. One estimate says India's air contributes to 1.2 million deaths per year. Doctors have said breathing the air in New Dehli, the nation's capital, is like smoking 10 cigarettes a day."

http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/03/technolo...tml?iid=EL
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26-07-2017, 06:24 AM
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"Even if we meet our most ambitious climate goal — keeping global temperatures within a strict 1.5 degrees Celsius (or 2.7 degree Fahrenheit) of their preindustrial levels — there will still be consequences, scientists say. And they’ll last for years after we stop emitting carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. New research suggests that extreme El Niño events — which can cause intense rainfall, flooding and other severe weather events in certain parts of the world — will occur more and more often as long as humans continue producing greenhouse gas emissions. And even if we’re able to stabilize the global climate at the 1.5-degree threshold, the study concludes, these events will continue to increase in frequency for up to another 100 years afterward. The findings were published Monday in the journal Nature Climate Change."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ener...ign=buffer
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26-07-2017, 08:22 PM
RE: Climate Change - General Discussion
Eventually, nature will stop human made greenhouse gas emissions.

I'm hoping that takes more than 70 years, so my grandsons and granddaughter will be able to enjoy a good life.

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27-07-2017, 01:08 AM
RE: Climate Change - General Discussion
(26-07-2017 08:22 PM)Rahn127 Wrote:  Eventually, nature will stop human made greenhouse gas emissions.

I'm hoping that takes more than 70 years, so my grandsons and granddaughter will be able to enjoy a good life.

Well, we humans will ourselves run out of fossil fuels to burn someday. But the reserves we have to burn (especially of coal) are much greater than we should ever burn if we want to avoid the worst climate change.

In any case, your grandsons and granddaughter may see extreme weather and the flooding of the coasts, but are unlikely to see the worst climate change, which will play out over the next several centuries (at least if we don't bring our emissions under control).

Part of the problem in the moral considerations surrounding climate change is that the people we will be harming the most have not even been born yet, and will most likely live in poorer countries as well. We therefore tend to discount our moral responsibilities.
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31-07-2017, 10:00 AM (This post was last modified: 31-07-2017 10:04 AM by Thoreauvian.)
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"By the end of the century, the global [average] temperature is likely to rise more than 2 degrees Celsius, or 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit. This rise in temperature is the ominous conclusion reached by two different studies using entirely different methods published in the journal Nature Climate Change on Monday. One study used statistical analysis to show that there is a 95% chance that Earth will warm more than 2 degrees at century's end, and a 1% chance that it will be at or below the 2 degree mark. 'The likely range of global temperature increase is 2.0-4.9 [degrees Celsius] and our median forecast is 3.2 C,' said Adrian Raftery, author of the first study."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/31/health/cli...index.html
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31-07-2017, 10:44 AM
RE: Climate Change - General Discussion
(31-07-2017 10:00 AM)Thoreauvian Wrote:  "By the end of the century, the global [average] temperature is likely to rise more than 2 degrees Celsius, or 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit. This rise in temperature is the ominous conclusion reached by two different studies using entirely different methods published in the journal Nature Climate Change on Monday. One study used statistical analysis to show that there is a 95% chance that Earth will warm more than 2 degrees at century's end, and a 1% chance that it will be at or below the 2 degree mark. 'The likely range of global temperature increase is 2.0-4.9 [degrees Celsius] and our median forecast is 3.2 C,' said Adrian Raftery, author of the first study."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/31/health/cli...index.html

Scary shit. Glad I'll probably miss it by 40 or 50 years. The step daughter is planning on having kids soon though. I've been trying to talk them out of it...

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