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25-01-2016, 05:30 PM
Commentary on Paleophyte and Agnostic Shane
Not a good start. Agnostic Shane posts a huge wall of text. Paleophyte suggests that it might be better to break that up, for the sake of the readers if nothing else. Agnostic Shane says OK, then posts the same goddam wall of text again. And then posts it yet another time. Apparently he can't read. Or doesn't care. Well, I don't care about him and will not waste the time to read his huge wall of text.
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25-01-2016, 05:34 PM
RE: Commentary on Paleophyte and Agnostic Shane
Something tells me that is his tactic. Bombard us with so much information that we cannot be arsed to read and verify it all.
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25-01-2016, 05:39 PM
RE: Commentary on Paleophyte and Agnostic Shane
(25-01-2016 05:34 PM)Blessed_Cheesemaker Wrote:  Something tells me that is his tactic. Bombard us with so much information that we cannot be arsed to read and verify it all.

You're using 'information' in an ironic manner, eh? Consider

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25-01-2016, 05:49 PM
RE: Commentary on Paleophyte and Agnostic Shane
(25-01-2016 05:39 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(25-01-2016 05:34 PM)Blessed_Cheesemaker Wrote:  Something tells me that is his tactic. Bombard us with so much information that we cannot be arsed to read and verify it all.

You're using 'information' in an ironic manner, eh? Consider

Absolutely, perhaps data would be more accurate? Information implies some level of usefulness Smile
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25-01-2016, 06:49 PM
RE: Commentary on Paleophyte and Agnostic Shane
Um... hasn't AgShane thrown the debate from the get go with the line of,


(25-01-2016 05:21 PM)Agnostic Shane Wrote:  Topic of debate:
How do we know the Universe is 13.799±0.021 billion years old & it cannot be 6 days old or even 46 billion years old?

My answer is: "We don't know"

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Isn't that admitting their ignorance on the subject?

Everything else might be some good science reads from Paleophyte.
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25-01-2016, 11:27 PM
RE: Commentary on Paleophyte and Agnostic Shane
Gonna repost this for the benefit of anyone that missed it.
(24-01-2016 03:36 PM)Agnostic Shane Wrote:  At 'Warp 7' you are traveling at a speed which is within ( 1 - .9999999) x 300,000 kilometers/sec = 30 meters/sec of the speed of light. It will take you 4.2 years/2236 = 16.2 hours to travel 4.2 light years distant, but present you will see it take you 4.2 YEARS. 26,000 light years distance will take you only 11.6 years to cover at this speed. An electron sitting in your frame of reference will be seen as having an energy of 2236 x mc^2 = 1.1 GeV which is the mass of a proton! We can push this story even further:
Warp Factor e t0
..................................................
9 3 cm/sec 22360
16 300 Angstroms/sec 71 million
25 ..... 2.2 trillion
30 ..... 700 trillion
37 ..... 2 billion billion
...............................................................
At Warp 16, you cover the distance of the observable universe (the current distance of the visible horizon to the universe) in 212 years. At Warp 25, this takes only 2.4 days, and at Warp 37 ( 0.99999...37 times) the universe's age is only 0.2 SECONDS! The expansion may only take less than a second at your old speed, but at your current speed in present day it would have taken 13.799 billion years. At light speed the universe will literally have passed in and out of existence in no time at all.

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At 'Warp 7' you are traveling at a speed which is within ( 1 - .9999999) x 300,000 kilometers/sec = 30 meters/sec of the speed of light. It will take you 4.2 years/2236 = 16.2 hours to travel to the nearest star 4.2 light years distant, but your twin back on Earth will see it take you 4.2 YEARS. The center of our Milky Way is 26,000 light years away, but this will take you only 11.6 years at this speed. An electron sitting in your frame of reference will be seen as having an energy of 2236 x mc^2 = 1.1 GeV which is the mass of a proton! We can push this story even further:

Warp Factor e t0
..................................................
9 30 cm/sec 22360
16 300 Angstroms/sec 71 million
25 ..... 2.2 trillion
30 ..... 700 trillion
37 ..... 2 billion billion
...............................................................

At 'Warp' 9, you can travel to the Galactic center in 1.1 years. At Warp 16, you can travel to the current distance of the visible horizon to the universe some 15 billion light years distant, in 212 years. At Warp 25, this takes only 2.4 days, and at Warp 37 ( 0.99999...37 times) the journey across the universe takes only 0.2 SECONDS! The journey may only take a second for you, but outside, it still takes 15 billion years. At this speed, if we live in a closed universe with only finite spatial volume and lifetime, you will witness the collapse of the universe in a few seconds! The universe will literally have passed in and out of existence in less time than it takes you to take a breath!

I highlighted the interesting part.Drinking Beverage

You will notice that he is engaged in blatant theft of other peoples material, which lets be honest he probably doesn't even understand if his post history is anything to go by, but whats worse is that he is copy+pasting others work and then selectively editing it to say things the original doesn't actually say.

That's dishonesty twice over.

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26-01-2016, 09:39 AM (This post was last modified: 26-01-2016 02:30 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Commentary on Paleophyte and Agnostic Shane
So. Let's play spot the fallacy. (The universe is getting younger, doncha know.) Facepalm
http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/index...omposition

I'll start out : 1.
http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/index...omposition

He's saying that "personal experience" and obervation are more reliable than just observation (and as usual with no supporting information).
This coming from someone who is trying to tell us time is running in reverse.
We know humans evolved to see (experience) reality on a "macro" level, and personal experience is notoriously unreliable.
He *claimed* he was going to argue his bullshit from "science", and now it's down to his "personal experience", all at the SAME time claiming all he is certain of, are his thoughts. Something's very wrong in Denmark.

What a monumental waste of time.

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27-01-2016, 07:34 AM
RE: Commentary on Paleophyte and Agnostic Shane
Now he whines they weren't "his". He plagiarizes shit then complains they weren't "his". Facepalm

Insufferable know-it-all.Einstein God has a plan for us. Please stop screwing it up with your prayers.
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27-01-2016, 09:45 AM
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Very nice posts paleophyte!
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27-01-2016, 10:49 AM
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Looks like we have another Pigeon at the chess table.

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