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30-08-2012, 08:50 PM (This post was last modified: 30-08-2012 08:54 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Community Policy
(30-08-2012 08:02 PM)cufflink Wrote:  
(30-08-2012 06:23 PM)closet.atheist Wrote:  That said, there are people who intend to damage a site and care nothing about its mission, the people using it, logic, etc. If this site has admins with a little experience, I would expect them to balance absolute free speech against the damage to the culture of the site when the need arises. If that fails, they will probably eventually notice a mob armed with torches and pitchforks chasing some idiot off the site.

This states the problem clearly. The solution isn't as clear.

The current policy of virtually absolute free speech, with no one banned for invective, insensitivity, racism, sexism, and general asshole-ish behavior, at least has the virtue of being clear-cut and workable. We know exactly where the line is: post porn or nudity, spam, or threaten someone, and you're gone; otherwise, say what you want--you won't be kicked out. If the admins were to ban for "bad behavior," however that's defined, the lines would get fuzzy; people wouldn't necessarily agree whether a given incident of bad behavior was over the line or not. And I can see a lot of decisions creating divisiveness.

But if we don't expand the current criteria for banning, what should the response be to "people who intend to damage a site and care nothing about its mission, the people using it, logic, etc."? It can't simply to be to put the person on ignore. That sends a totally wrong message: say whatever you want, and the worst that will happen is that some us won't respond to you. Think of someone who's just discovered the site and is trying to get the lay of the land before joining. They see all this abuse, and no one is calling the abuser on it. I don't think I'd want to part of a group like that.

The only thing I can think of is some kind of concerted community response to egregiously bad behavior. A dozen members piling on and letting the abuser know they're way over the line can be powerful. Neg reps can be useful. Strongly supporting someone who's been abused can help. In extreme cases, 20 members telling someone they're not welcome and urging them to leave on their own--"the torches and pitchforks" solution--might be necessary. I dunno. My point is that people have to respond in some vocal way to really bad behavior. Silence is not an option.

Torches and pitchforks just tend to encourage them. If they came here with malevolent intent that's the response they wanted to provoke. Derailment by drunken pirates and vulgar hairless talking monkeys who can not only respond to their prickness in kind but with superior firepower at least distracts them from their primary mission with a more immediate concern. ... And then they get bored and leave. ... Or they stay like Egor and eventually realize they're just another ordinary asshole like the rest of us.

I am us and we is me. ... bitches.
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Community Policy - Dom - 29-08-2012, 02:36 PM
AW: Community Policy - Vosur - 29-08-2012, 02:45 PM
RE: AW: Community Policy - Logica Humano - 29-08-2012, 03:03 PM
RE: AW: Community Policy - Vosur - 30-08-2012, 08:35 AM
RE: AW: Community Policy - Logica Humano - 30-08-2012, 08:44 AM
RE: AW: Community Policy - Vosur - 30-08-2012, 08:49 AM
RE: AW: Community Policy - Logica Humano - 30-08-2012, 09:57 AM
RE: AW: Community Policy - Vosur - 30-08-2012, 10:02 AM
RE: Community Policy - Dom - 29-08-2012, 03:22 PM
RE: Community Policy - lucradis - 29-08-2012, 03:29 PM
RE: Community Policy - Dom - 29-08-2012, 04:02 PM
RE: Community Policy - Leela - 29-08-2012, 04:11 PM
RE: Community Policy - N.E.OhioAtheist - 30-08-2012, 07:31 AM
RE: Community Policy - Atothetheist - 29-08-2012, 04:16 PM
RE: Community Policy - Atothetheist - 29-08-2012, 04:24 PM
RE: Community Policy - Stark Raving - 29-08-2012, 04:25 PM
RE: Community Policy - Leela - 29-08-2012, 04:25 PM
RE: Community Policy - Atothetheist - 29-08-2012, 04:31 PM
RE: Community Policy - Leela - 29-08-2012, 04:33 PM
RE: Community Policy - Atothetheist - 29-08-2012, 04:36 PM
RE: Community Policy - Hughsie - 29-08-2012, 04:38 PM
RE: Community Policy - lucradis - 29-08-2012, 04:39 PM
RE: Community Policy - kim - 29-08-2012, 04:59 PM
RE: Community Policy - GirlyMan - 29-08-2012, 05:47 PM
RE: Community Policy - Anjele - 29-08-2012, 05:01 PM
RE: Community Policy - Jeff - 29-08-2012, 05:12 PM
RE: Community Policy - Anjele - 29-08-2012, 05:27 PM
Community Policy - Erxomai - 29-08-2012, 06:58 PM
RE: Community Policy - GirlyMan - 29-08-2012, 07:01 PM
RE: Community Policy - aurora - 29-08-2012, 10:52 PM
RE: Community Policy - Leela - 30-08-2012, 02:06 AM
RE: Community Policy - Seasbury - 30-08-2012, 07:34 AM
RE: Community Policy - lucradis - 30-08-2012, 07:56 AM
RE: Community Policy - Logica Humano - 30-08-2012, 08:15 AM
Community Policy - Erxomai - 30-08-2012, 08:25 AM
RE: Community Policy - morondog - 30-08-2012, 08:28 AM
RE: Community Policy - Logica Humano - 30-08-2012, 08:31 AM
RE: Community Policy - morondog - 30-08-2012, 08:41 AM
RE: Community Policy - KidCharlemagne1962 - 30-08-2012, 10:07 AM
RE: Community Policy - Dom - 30-08-2012, 10:18 AM
RE: Community Policy - kim - 30-08-2012, 10:24 AM
RE: Community Policy - Hughsie - 30-08-2012, 10:26 AM
RE: Community Policy - Leela - 30-08-2012, 10:34 AM
RE: Community Policy - Dom - 30-08-2012, 10:44 AM
RE: Community Policy - lucradis - 30-08-2012, 10:45 AM
RE: Community Policy - Dom - 30-08-2012, 10:56 AM
RE: Community Policy - houseofcantor - 30-08-2012, 11:01 AM
RE: Community Policy - Vosur - 30-08-2012, 11:06 AM
RE: Community Policy - houseofcantor - 30-08-2012, 11:14 AM
RE: Community Policy - kim - 30-08-2012, 11:07 AM
RE: Community Policy - houseofcantor - 30-08-2012, 11:17 AM
RE: Community Policy - kim - 30-08-2012, 12:15 PM
RE: Community Policy - lucradis - 30-08-2012, 11:11 AM
RE: Community Policy - Chas - 30-08-2012, 11:18 AM
RE: Community Policy - Stark Raving - 30-08-2012, 11:45 AM
RE: Community Policy - Vosur - 30-08-2012, 11:49 AM
RE: Community Policy - Stark Raving - 30-08-2012, 11:51 AM
RE: Community Policy - Vosur - 30-08-2012, 11:54 AM
RE: Community Policy - houseofcantor - 30-08-2012, 11:54 AM
RE: Community Policy - Chas - 30-08-2012, 11:53 AM
RE: Community Policy - Hughsie - 30-08-2012, 12:04 PM
RE: Community Policy - legendoflink - 30-08-2012, 11:46 AM
RE: Community Policy - Dom - 30-08-2012, 11:59 AM
RE: Community Policy - Vosur - 30-08-2012, 12:05 PM
RE: Community Policy - houseofcantor - 30-08-2012, 12:07 PM
RE: Community Policy - Vosur - 30-08-2012, 12:15 PM
RE: Community Policy - ddrew - 30-08-2012, 12:14 PM
RE: Community Policy - closet.atheist - 30-08-2012, 06:23 PM
RE: Community Policy - cufflink - 30-08-2012, 08:02 PM
RE: Community Policy - GirlyMan - 30-08-2012 08:50 PM
RE: Community Policy - cufflink - 31-08-2012, 01:05 AM
RE: Community Policy - Question - 30-08-2012, 07:55 PM
RE: Community Policy - Seasbury - 30-08-2012, 08:55 PM
RE: Community Policy - Atothetheist - 30-08-2012, 09:06 PM
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