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13-03-2015, 05:53 AM
"Connected" old mythology or si fi crap.
Be it an atheist version, or part of some sects of Asian/Oriental or Indian religions.

There are people with gods or godless who have a really stupid idea that "all this" is connected. Some think of it as cognitive or even if not cognitive, somehow living.

No sorry guys, neither new age si fi thinking or mixing it with old mythology makes the universe all "connected". It is true that all this started in one tiny dense space. But that was then. None of us have any connection now, to an electron or quark or atom on the furthest galaxies away from us. There has been since the big bang, tons of speed and separation.

It is still a watered down way of dreaming of being infinite. This universe is not a living thing, living things in it are an outcome, not a requirement or starting point or cause. The universe is uncaring like a our atmosphere on this planet, you can have sunny days, but you can also have hurricanes and tornados. The universe is vastly hostile and violent, we only perceive it as calm because we don't think about it's long term history.

So even without thinking of it as a god, it is still stupid to get stuck on even a si fi pretty. Yes there are pretty things in the universe. And it is even freaky to think of all the matter starting in the same spot. But no, I really wish people would stop letting their emotions allow them to think an object, a giant weather pattern, somehow is capable of giving one shit about humans.

"All this" is a giant weather pattern and we are merely a finite blip riding in it. It is ok to have a deep appreciation for what we observe. But please do not turn it into a mythology, religion or even a Star Trek episode. Science and nature are awesome without old woo or new woo.

I think it is awesome to think about the fact that I do not contain one single atom from when I was a sperm and egg or even a baby. I think it is awesome to think about neutrinos and black holes and red giants. I do not feel in any case the need to turn it into a god or a si fi movie.

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16-03-2015, 12:24 PM
RE: "Connected" old mythology or si fi crap.
Ok, since I posted this I do have to clarify when QM uses the word "connected" it does not mean what si fi or religious wooers want it to mean. Quantum entanglement does not prop up si fi shows or religion.

A wave at the QM level doesn't even justify consciousness. A wave is only a wave. Our biological level at our macro level requires mass and structure in a specific arrangement. In other words you cannot treat the tire as the entire car.

QM in a lab only justifies QM. QM can only be tested and falsified by scientists. I say this because over the years, just like Christianity and Islam and even Hindu try to co op science, I have seen si fi fans try to use QM as well as Buddhists.

Humans have a real bad tendency to take non lab thoughts in their own personal heads, after seeing real science or hearing about it, and then gap fill because they want to justify their own personal wishes.

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16-03-2015, 02:34 PM
"Connected" old mythology or si fi crap.
I hear that all the time here. A local jacknut has been spewing that here. He claims QM and science proves "The Secret" and that whole line of woo as true. He's one of those "think and visualize and you change the fabric of reality" crap.
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