Contemporary Accounts of Jesus
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17-07-2016, 03:17 PM
RE: Contemporary Accounts of Jesus
(17-07-2016 03:15 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(17-07-2016 03:12 PM)GoingUp Wrote:  Or that which can be manufactured and then passed off as the truth.

What ever works, right?

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17-07-2016, 03:43 PM
RE: Contemporary Accounts of Jesus
(17-07-2016 08:04 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(16-07-2016 04:10 PM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  Please tell us what "Nazareth" was in the first century, along with your evidence. Do not dodge the question. You have not told us what you think was there. The spiel from Bart, which was a quote from someone else, hasn't convinced me either.

Uhm, we have a variety of archaeological evidence in support of Nazareth existing in the first century, from graves, an excavated farm, coins, and pottery, and even an inscription in synagogue, that chronicles that assignment of priests during the Bar Bar Kokhba revolt in 132.

Not even mythicist like Richard Carrier, are dumb enough to suggest that Nazareth didn't exist, only you are plagued with such dishonesty.

Why the ad hominem?

The truth is I find the "evidence" unconvincing. These things do not constitute a town with a synagogue, as claimed in the gospels.

If there was a town at that site, there would be remains of a town at that site. There isn't. And, by the way, I'm not the only person who finds the evidence lacking.
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17-07-2016, 03:47 PM
RE: Contemporary Accounts of Jesus
(17-07-2016 02:56 PM)GoingUp Wrote:  
(17-07-2016 02:02 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  The fuck you ain't.

Coming to Mark's rescue by attacking me has no hope of diverting the truth about him. I am not being pretentious by agreeing with the well learned and experienced scholarly community.

Yet, here is Mark, trying to pass himself off as some kind of an authority because he read a few books, and then wasted a shit load of time writing to what amounts to be no more than a fictitious fantasy novel.

With no formal education or experience in the relevant fields of history or archeology, this dentist from Queensland constantly promotes the same old same old bullshit that long ago became long on the tooth, which eventually can only result in him looking down in the mouth.

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17-07-2016, 03:51 PM
RE: Contemporary Accounts of Jesus
(17-07-2016 02:56 PM)GoingUp Wrote:  With no formal education or experience in the relevant fields of history or archeology, this dentist from Queensland constantly promotes the same old same old bullshit that long ago became long on the tooth, which eventually can only result in him looking down in the mouth.

I know Mark's CV because I've read it. Obviously you didn't. Did you already offer up your CV? Because if you did I missed it.

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17-07-2016, 04:28 PM
RE: Contemporary Accounts of Jesus
(17-07-2016 03:51 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(17-07-2016 02:56 PM)GoingUp Wrote:  With no formal education or experience in the relevant fields of history or archeology, this dentist from Queensland constantly promotes the same old same old bullshit that long ago became long on the tooth, which eventually can only result in him looking down in the mouth.

I know Mark's CV because I've read it. Obviously you didn't. Did you already offer up your CV? Because if you did I missed it.

I knew he was a doctor of some sort in Queensland.

I mentioned that I was a teacher many pages ago. I specialize in ancient Roman history. I am a seasonal contract instructor. The pay sucks, so i also have another part-time contractual completely unrelated job, which my screen name reflects; elevator maintenance.
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17-07-2016, 04:32 PM
Contemporary Accounts of Jesus
(17-07-2016 03:43 PM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  
(17-07-2016 08:04 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  Uhm, we have a variety of archaeological evidence in support of Nazareth existing in the first century, from graves, an excavated farm, coins, and pottery, and even an inscription in synagogue, that chronicles that assignment of priests during the Bar Bar Kokhba revolt in 132.

Not even mythicist like Richard Carrier, are dumb enough to suggest that Nazareth didn't exist, only you are plagued with such dishonesty.

Why the ad hominem?

The truth is I find the "evidence" unconvincing. These things do not constitute a town with a synagogue, as claimed in the gospels.

If there was a town at that site, there would be remains of a town at that site. There isn't. And, by the way, I'm not the only person who finds the evidence lacking.


So what exactly are you unconvinced of, that a place called Nazareth at the time existed, for which we have archaeological evidence, graves, inscriptions, pottery, coins, an excavated farmhouse from? Or the scale of such a place, of whether it would constitute as a "town"?




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17-07-2016, 05:44 PM
RE: Contemporary Accounts of Jesus
(13-07-2016 10:50 PM)evenheathen Wrote:  
(13-07-2016 10:43 PM)Unbeliever Wrote:  Still waiting for any type of evidence that a resurrection occurred.

Until then, arguing over whether or not Nazareth existed is rather pointless, I feel.

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17-07-2016, 06:18 PM
RE: Contemporary Accounts of Jesus
(17-07-2016 04:28 PM)GoingUp Wrote:  
(17-07-2016 03:51 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  I know Mark's CV because I've read it. Obviously you didn't. Did you already offer up your CV? Because if you did I missed it.

I knew he was a doctor of some sort in Queensland.

I mentioned that I was a teacher many pages ago. I specialize in ancient Roman history. I am a seasonal contract instructor. The pay sucks, so i also have another part-time contractual completely unrelated job, which my screen name reflects; elevator maintenance.

You realize that looks nothing like a CV, right? ... I do have a great deal of respect for the elevator maintenance skills. I get on the ones in NYC skyscapers and shit takes off to get me up like a couple hundred feet quickly and the only thing I can think is "I hope to fuck the elevator engineer knows what they're doing."

Do you have a CV?

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17-07-2016, 06:25 PM
RE: Contemporary Accounts of Jesus
(17-07-2016 07:55 AM)GoingUp Wrote:  
(16-07-2016 10:47 PM)Banjo Wrote:  Dude, Mark's not a layman.

Mark has absolutely no formal education and/or training in either ancient history or archeology.

I've been studying it for 36 years and am a qualified pastor.

What does that make me?

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17-07-2016, 07:20 PM
RE: Contemporary Accounts of Jesus
(17-07-2016 06:18 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(17-07-2016 04:28 PM)GoingUp Wrote:  I knew he was a doctor of some sort in Queensland.

I mentioned that I was a teacher many pages ago. I specialize in ancient Roman history. I am a seasonal contract instructor. The pay sucks, so i also have another part-time contractual completely unrelated job, which my screen name reflects; elevator maintenance.

You realize that looks nothing like a CV, right? ... I do have a great deal of respect for the elevator maintenance skills. I get on the ones in NYC skyscapers and shit takes off to get me up like a couple hundred feet quickly and the only thing I can think is "I hope to fuck the elevator engineer knows what they're doing."

Do you have a CV?

Of course I do, but i am not foolish enough to publish it on a forum where I prefer to be anonymous. Who does that?
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