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21-05-2014, 05:18 AM
Converting others on Christian forums to Gnostic Atheism
I am planning on signing up to some Christian forums to tell them that they are all wrong. Obviously I can't tell them this outright as otherwise they might get a little upset but I am sure that once I point out to them that I am right and they are wrong and there need not be any debate on the subject that they will all convert to Gnostic Atheism. I expect some of them might call me a troll but that will just be a sign that they are losing the argument.

I am wondering about what strategy to employ. I am considering asking ambiguous questions that hint that they might be wrong and then when they ask for more information I ask them to define the terms that I used in my question. This way I can try to convince them that Christianity and Gnostic Atheism are actually very similar and that they're just slightly wrong in their beliefs and that it's just a short, simple step to becoming a Gnostic Atheist instead. I expect to get many converts like this.

I plan to sign up and initially tell them that I am only there to answer any questions that they might have, such as their biggest objection to 'On the origin of species'. Not that I have read it, in fact I am quite scientifically illiterate. This does not bother me though. I KNOW that Gnostic Atheism is true and that there is no god. I know this because I have a personal relationship with a non-existent entity.

It matters little that I did not arrive at this conclusion myself but was taught it from an early age before I had any chance to develop critical thinking skills. All I know is that I KNOW and therefore everyone else should know too.

If I can't make them see sense then I can only assume that they are angry at the Scientific Method and reject it because they have failed in their lives. If they ask for absolute proof that God does not exist then I will ask for absolute proof that he does. This will confound them and I do not expect them to ask a second time for proof of my claim. Failing that I will try to manipulate their own inherent fears, such as how they might be following the wrong branch of Christianity.

I plan on converting lots of Christians and in no way will I be doing this to point and laugh at them in order to make myself feel better about my own lack of agency.
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21-05-2014, 05:32 AM
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(21-05-2014 05:18 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  I am planning on signing up to some Christian forums to tell them that they are all wrong.

Picking the low hanging fruits, eh? What about them Muslims??



Protip: Don't forget to not tell anyone how you came to have your personal relationship with your non-existent entity in the first place, that would just overly confuse people, they'd probably start thinking you're making shit up or something.

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21-05-2014, 06:04 AM
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(21-05-2014 05:18 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  I am planning on signing up to some Christian forums to tell them that they are all wrong. Obviously I can't tell them this outright as otherwise they might get a little upset but I am sure that once I point out to them that I am right and they are wrong and there need not be any debate on the subject that they will all convert to Gnostic Atheism. I expect some of them might call me a troll but that will just be a sign that they are losing the argument.

I am wondering about what strategy to employ. I am considering asking ambiguous questions that hint that they might be wrong and then when they ask for more information I ask them to define the terms that I used in my question. This way I can try to convince them that Christianity and Gnostic Atheism are actually very similar and that they're just slightly wrong in their beliefs and that it's just a short, simple step to becoming a Gnostic Atheist instead. I expect to get many converts like this.

I plan to sign up and initially tell them that I am only there to answer any questions that they might have, such as their biggest objection to 'On the origin of species'. Not that I have read it, in fact I am quite scientifically illiterate. This does not bother me though. I KNOW that Gnostic Atheism is true and that there is no god. I know this because I have a personal relationship with a non-existent entity.

It matters little that I did not arrive at this conclusion myself but was taught it from an early age before I had any chance to develop critical thinking skills. All I know is that I KNOW and therefore everyone else should know too.

If I can't make them see sense then I can only assume that they are angry at the Scientific Method and reject it because they have failed in their lives. If they ask for absolute proof that God does not exist then I will ask for absolute proof that he does. This will confound them and I do not expect them to ask a second time for proof of my claim. Failing that I will try to manipulate their own inherent fears, such as how they might be following the wrong branch of Christianity.

I plan on converting lots of Christians and in no way will I be doing this to point and laugh at them in order to make myself feel better about my own lack of agency.

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21-05-2014, 06:05 AM
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(21-05-2014 05:32 AM)John Wrote:  
(21-05-2014 05:18 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  I am planning on signing up to some Christian forums to tell them that they are all wrong.

Picking the low hanging fruits, eh? What about them Muslims??

I assume she's avoiding Muslims because she still values her life.

It's the Religion of Peace, but they'll kill you if you say anything bad about it... Consider

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21-05-2014, 06:18 AM
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(21-05-2014 05:32 AM)John Wrote:  Protip: Don't forget to not tell anyone how you came to have your personal relationship with your non-existent entity in the first place, that would just overly confuse people

Good point. Because a personal relationship is a completely subjective experience that provided me with a unswerving belief in a completely objective morality. And every other convert will have a completely different subjective experience and a belief in a completely different objective morality.

First I'll need to convince of them ideas that are easy to accept and then I can move onto the harder stuff that doesn't make sense is more metaphysical.


(21-05-2014 05:32 AM)John Wrote:  ... they'd probably start thinking you're making shit up or something.

Oh they'll only say that when they're struggling to find ways of arguing with me. Possibly when they find that the main crux of my argument is me telling them that I am right and they are wrong.
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21-05-2014, 06:24 AM
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I so see what you did there, Matti.

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21-05-2014, 06:27 AM
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DON'T FORGET TO USE LOTS OF CAPS! USING CAPS LETS THEM KNOW THAT YOU ARE SERIOUS! LIKE, FOR REAL SERIOUS NOT JUST PLAYING.


If blanket assertions that they are wrong don't work, another great tactic is to brow beat them and threaten them with torture by fire. I hear that works real well in converting people.

And remember, if they ask you for evidence, they're just being shifty and re-asserting your own anecdotes in a more forceful manner equates to unassailable logic and evidence.

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21-05-2014, 06:28 AM
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You'll just get get banned after you say "Hi" , ya know, they're so good at puting their fingers in their ears and going 'LaLaLaLa.... I cant hear youuuu' .

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21-05-2014, 06:35 AM
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(21-05-2014 05:18 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  I am planning on signing up to some Christian forums to tell them that they are all wrong. Obviously I can't tell them this outright as otherwise they might get a little upset but I am sure that once I point out to them that I am right and they are wrong and there need not be any debate on the subject that they will all convert to Gnostic Atheism. I expect some of them might call me a troll but that will just be a sign that they are losing the argument.

I am wondering about what strategy to employ. I am considering asking ambiguous questions that hint that they might be wrong and then when they ask for more information I ask them to define the terms that I used in my question. This way I can try to convince them that Christianity and Gnostic Atheism are actually very similar and that they're just slightly wrong in their beliefs and that it's just a short, simple step to becoming a Gnostic Atheist instead. I expect to get many converts like this.

I plan to sign up and initially tell them that I am only there to answer any questions that they might have, such as their biggest objection to 'On the origin of species'. Not that I have read it, in fact I am quite scientifically illiterate. This does not bother me though. I KNOW that Gnostic Atheism is true and that there is no god. I know this because I have a personal relationship with a non-existent entity.

It matters little that I did not arrive at this conclusion myself but was taught it from an early age before I had any chance to develop critical thinking skills. All I know is that I KNOW and therefore everyone else should know too.

If I can't make them see sense then I can only assume that they are angry at the Scientific Method and reject it because they have failed in their lives. If they ask for absolute proof that God does not exist then I will ask for absolute proof that he does. This will confound them and I do not expect them to ask a second time for proof of my claim. Failing that I will try to manipulate their own inherent fears, such as how they might be following the wrong branch of Christianity.

I plan on converting lots of Christians and in no way will I be doing this to point and laugh at them in order to make myself feel better about my own lack of agency.

Thus far the TTAF track-rate for non-trolling visits to Christian forms tend to go like this:
1. sign up
2. ???
3. Banned, often for miscellaneous 'offences' which aren't actually rules.

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21-05-2014, 06:58 AM
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don't forget that if they say they 'don't know yet' that it means your ideas are the ones that bridge that gap in their lack of knowledge.


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