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08-12-2015, 12:38 PM
RE: Cops Patiently Wait For Excuse To Execute Man
Did he just run into the barbershop for a razor, or did he actually get a haircut?

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08-12-2015, 12:42 PM
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(08-12-2015 12:36 PM)yakherder Wrote:  
(08-12-2015 12:01 PM)Slowminded Wrote:  How about shooting the bomb? That can't set it off?

A British sniper did that a couple years back and killed 6 Taliban with 1 shot. Good times...
I saw a youtube video about it, good times indeed Thumbsup

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08-12-2015, 12:49 PM
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" Cops have families too" That's a crock of shit and I'll tell you why. Nobody needs to have the sight of some guys last moment before they gun him down etched in their brains forever. No amount of counseling fixes that, and it harms the officer's family too. The training is all fucked up. It puts everybody in harm's way down the road. If 4 officers have guns on somebody then the 5th should be free to employ nonlethal means without risking him/her self.
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08-12-2015, 12:51 PM
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Its about time. No more fucking around. Too many scum bags get to bully people and cops around. They expect cops and citizens to retreat and cower to their threat of violence. That time is over. Cops will shoot someone with a knife, just as any citizen would under similar circumstances. That's the beauty of rules of engagement and stand your ground laws. The bad guys have to think twice now.

People won't be victims anymore. Game over.

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08-12-2015, 12:55 PM
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Keep bitching and demanding more action against cops.....

Good luck to ya - when you call for them, and there's nobody home....

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08-12-2015, 12:57 PM (This post was last modified: 08-12-2015 01:37 PM by RocketSurgeon76.)
RE: Cops Patiently Wait For Excuse To Execute Man
(08-12-2015 11:21 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Sorry, cops are not trained to give ground or run. They post up and contain the suspect. If they keep backing up as he approaches them it puts basserbys in danger. He had one choice only. Get down on the ground. The video starts with the suspect on one side of the cruiser and the police on the other. They don't move. He walks around the cruiser and approaches the female officer with a razor in his hand and a possible bomb in his pocket.

There are plenty of cases of police brutality and even murder. This isn't one of them.

(Bold emphasis my own.)

Sorry I'm late to this thread, but this was a WTF moment.

Are you seriously suggesting that, when a suspect is surrounded by police keeping their distance, that a man walking with a knife in hand is a danger to "passers-by"? Who's going to cross a ring of police to get next to that guy, where he can reach them? Why would the police possibly get closer than five meters (16') to a guy with a knife, when they have tasers, high-powered pepper-spray, and other non-lethal options that can reach that far easily?

Instead, the police in almost every video I have seen lately that involves the shooting death of the suspect occurs when police deliberately place themselves in "danger" by running to a position where they can make such a claim. A recent example is the 19-year-old kid whom the police shoot through his driver's side window as his tiny car tries to drive away from the scene; the officer runs sideways to try to place himself in front of the car and, failing that, shoots the kid, claiming the kid was trying to run him over, even though at no point was he in front of the car. Likewise, with every one of the videos I have seen on this subject, there was no actual danger to the police except that which they manufactured.

Most of the time, when you have a person waving a knife in the air in the presence of armed police, there is serious mental illness as the root cause of their actions. It's just not something mentally stable people tend to do, when faced with a wall of guns. Mentally unstable people react badly to escalating shouts, being surrounded, etc, and cannot be held to the standards of behavior you might claim for yourself or others who are as mentally stable as you are. Even the police organizations admit that the training for handling the mentally unstable is severely lacking in almost every police unit in the United States.

To suggest that the police are justified in shooting someone, simply because they are holding a knife, is beyond the pale. A troop of Boy Scouts, armed with Tasers, could easily have taken down every person in those videos without doing permanent harm, let alone executing them in broad daylight. The police clearly had no interest in trying to protect the life of that citizen, and were more concerned with manufacturing legal cover for the decision to execute.

Shame on them and shame on you for defending them.

Edited: change "gun" to "knife" in first paragraph. Oops!

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08-12-2015, 12:59 PM
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More action against? How about more training, better equipment and support? That's what I see is at issue. There will always be some bad eggs that end up on the force. Don't lump them in with the majority of great people who serve.
Giving some other options besides gunning down every time will help with that.
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08-12-2015, 01:02 PM
RE: Cops Patiently Wait For Excuse To Execute Man
Don't rob banks... Don't brandish weapons.....

Don't be a fucking wanker -- and nobody will shoot you......


How hard is that to figure out????

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08-12-2015, 01:04 PM
RE: Cops Patiently Wait For Excuse To Execute Man
(08-12-2015 12:14 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(08-12-2015 12:04 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Not surrendering is not sufficient grounds for summary execution on the street. Dodgy


What if they're suffering from a mental affliction or otherwise having an episode? Would you want a cadre of 14 armed police officers gunning down your Alzheimer's afflicted parents just because they weren't in the proper state of mind to obey an officer absolutely?


Since when is disrespecting or disobeying an officer a capitol offense!? Censored


FUCK THAT NOISE! PEOPLE DESERVE BETTER THAN TO BE EXECUTED IN THE FUCKING STREETS!

It's not about disobedience. It's about walking towards cops while armed with a damn razor and threatening to have a bomb in your pants. He didn't leave the cops much choice. They could have wrestled with him I suppose. But one or more would probably get slashed. He had every opportunity to put it down and lay on the ground. Cops have families too. They want to go home at the end of the day. In fact I would critique these officers for allowing him to get within 4 feet. He should have been taken down long before he got that close. Deadly force is authorized on a suspect holding an edged weapon that continues to advance and refuses orders to stop. Don't like it? Change the laws. Good luck finding cops then.
He wasn't advancing and there is more then 4 feet between him and the cops.
Really, if you think this is a justified shooting, you are insane.

(08-12-2015 12:51 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Its about time. No more fucking around. Too many scum bags get to bully people and cops around. They expect cops and citizens to retreat and cower to their threat of violence. That time is over. Cops will shoot someone with a knife, just as any citizen would under similar circumstances. That's the beauty of rules of engagement and stand your ground laws. The bad guys have to think twice now.

People won't be victims anymore. Game over.

Any citizen would do the same?
I think the fear got the better of you and you are not thinking clearly.

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08-12-2015, 01:06 PM
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In every self defense class I've been through - they've stated the "danger zone" of a person with a knife is 21 feet.....

That is, if they're within that distance and advancing - you stand a chance of being stabbed even if you put a round or two into your attacker.......

If the guy was within 4 feet of the officer with a knife - I'd call the officer slow to react.....

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