Cornerstones of democracy
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25-06-2012, 10:49 PM
RE: Cornerstones of democracy
(18-06-2012 06:49 AM)Seasbury Wrote:  
(18-06-2012 06:28 AM)Observer Wrote:  mine:
Democracy depends on informed citizens. Without honest information, options given to citizens are only the living opinions of leaders.
I want more transparency.
Observer -- One could argue that we've never had greater access to information in the history of our species!

People ARE informed, BUT, their opinions (in my opinion) are grossly misled. News is no longer news. Information is no longer information. It's all skewed based on personal prisms.

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This is funny, because there is a grain of truthiness to it. What isn't true is that the BBC is an "honest broker" for actual news. They've seen the Fox business model and have begun down that path - which is why al-Jazeera has become a better than average news station -- most BBC reporters jumped ship. Listen to AJ sometime and note the number of British accents reporting the news.

One thing I've learned over the last 3-5 years is that all facts are debatable. In fact, facts no longer matter (to the majority of people - as far as I can tell...)

Democracy, as much as we love it, can be a dangerous thing. We should never forget that Hitler was able to rise to power through a democratic process. The USA could easily have gone down the path of fascism in the 30s had FDR not been able to push through socialist programs to "save" democracy.

Back to your question, my favorite tenant would have to be the right to free speech - the uninhibited expression of ideas.

Through it all, ideas still matter. Unfortunately, it comes down to marketing and selling those ideas in order to gain traction Smile
Democracy can be two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.


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26-06-2012, 04:35 AM (This post was last modified: 26-06-2012 07:56 AM by Vipa.)
RE: Cornerstones of democracy
(25-06-2012 08:39 PM)BryanS Wrote:  Mob rule? No thank you. I bet if it was put to a vote, the US would vote to acknowledge our Christian heritage or some such nonsense.

this has got nothing to do with mob rule. but i guessed this would come up. the same argument always comes up. yet it works since 1848 without a problem. people normally grow with their responsibility. And you're able to lay boundaries on what it's possible to vote on. e.g. our constitution has to be within the boundaries of the european human rights treaty. a theocracy is impossible to build and no one would vote for it. reason prevails (at least the last 160 years of our country it did)
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