Couple denied service at cake shoppe due to being "abominations of the lord"
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03-03-2013, 02:14 PM
RE: Couple denied service at cake shoppe due to being "abominations of the lord"
(03-03-2013 11:43 AM)bbeljefe Wrote:  "Damn. Now we've run into a bit of a pickle in the ol' liberty department. [Image: consider.gif]"

The pickle you're talking about started when you (the collective) decided it was a good idea to point guns at people who don't agree with you.
Alright, I didn't even read the link about the cake shoppe; did I miss something? Blink

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03-03-2013, 02:15 PM
RE: Couple denied service at cake shoppe due to being "abominations of the lord"
(03-03-2013 02:14 PM)Misanthropik Wrote:  
(03-03-2013 11:43 AM)bbeljefe Wrote:  "Damn. Now we've run into a bit of a pickle in the ol' liberty department. [Image: consider.gif]"

The pickle you're talking about started when you (the collective) decided it was a good idea to point guns at people who don't agree with you.
Alright, I didn't even read the link about the cake shoppe; did I miss something? Blink


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03-03-2013, 02:18 PM
RE: Couple denied service at cake shoppe due to being "abominations of the lord"
(03-03-2013 02:15 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(03-03-2013 02:14 PM)Misanthropik Wrote:  Alright, I didn't even read the link about the cake shoppe; did I miss something? Blink


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Oh well. He's not picking up what I'm putting down either. Drinking Beverage

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03-03-2013, 06:39 PM
RE: Couple denied service at cake shoppe due to being "abominations of the lord"
"I agree that laws are backed by the threat of a cost, not necessarily violence."

Gotta love that soft language. Laws are, ultimately, backed up with violence. Hiding the violence in words like cost does not change that truth.

"Laws are required because people are not always ethical or rational,
they are more typically self-interested, uncaring, and callous. It is a
fantasy to think otherwise."


I would argue that the fantasy is the notion that this problem can be solved by giving a small group of the most unethical people among us guns, armies and the right to initiate force at will.

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03-03-2013, 06:41 PM
RE: Couple denied service at cake shoppe due to being "abominations of the lord"
(03-03-2013 06:39 PM)bbeljefe Wrote:  "I agree that laws are backed by the threat of a cost, not necessarily violence."

Gotta love that soft language. Laws are, ultimately, backed up with violence. Hiding the violence in words like cost does not change that truth.

"Laws are required because people are not always ethical or rational,
they are more typically self-interested, uncaring, and callous. It is a
fantasy to think otherwise."


I would argue that the fantasy is the notion that this problem can be solved by giving a small group of the most unethical people among us guns, armies and the right to initiate force at will.
Please share your solution. It will have to include a means to circumvent or channel human nature.

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03-03-2013, 07:01 PM
RE: Couple denied service at cake shoppe due to being "abominations of the lord"
"Please share your solution."

Dun did, to some degree... in the anarchy thread. Not gonna do it again here because it's a lot of typing and you're smart enough to find that thread.

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03-03-2013, 07:15 PM
RE: Couple denied service at cake shoppe due to being "abominations of the lord"
(03-03-2013 07:01 PM)bbeljefe Wrote:  "Please share your solution."

Dun did, to some degree... in the anarchy thread. Not gonna do it again here because it's a lot of typing and you're smart enough to find that thread.



Yeah, I read that. Won't work.

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03-03-2013, 07:24 PM
RE: Couple denied service at cake shoppe due to being "abominations of the lord"
"Yeah, I read that. Won't work."


Gee thanks.... for not being in control of what everyone else does. Big Grin

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18-01-2014, 12:49 AM (This post was last modified: 18-01-2014 12:52 AM by Hobbitgirl.)
RE: Couple denied service at cake shoppe due to being "abominations of the lord"
An update:

Bakery has in fact, broken the law.

http://www.nwcn.com/news/240936931.html

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