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18-05-2017, 02:05 AM
Creationist Sues the Grand Canyon for Religious Discrimination
The "Alliance Defending Freedom", a Christian legal advocacy group has filed a lawsuit against the Grand Canyon National Park administrators and the US Department of the Interior on behalf of Andrew Snelling - an "Associate Professor of Geology" at that well known bastion of idiocy, the Institute for Creation Research.


Snelling claims that the National Park would not grant him a permit to collect 50 to 60 fist-size
d rocks. All research in the national park is restricted, especially if it requires removing material.

In an email to Snelling filed as part of the lawsuit, a park officer said the project was not granted because the type of rock he wanted to study can also be found outside of the Grand Canyon. The park solicited peer reviews from three mainstream geologists. One mentioned the rocks could be found elsewhere; all three overwhelmingly denounced the work as not scientifically valid, a criterion the park also uses to evaluate proposals. Snelling, who holds a Ph.D. in geology, did not disclose his Answers in Genesis affiliation, nor did he explicitly say he wanted to prove the Grand Canyon is young in his initial permit application, but the reviewers became aware of his reputation.

The Grand Canyon obviously should never have offended people with its geological evidence of deep time.

Snelling who is a creationist geologist has a Ph.D. in geology from the University of Sydney and has worked as a consulting geologist. He was, for a decade, the geology spokesman for the Creation Science Foundation, the coordinating center for creationism in Australia.

Snelling has been published in standard geological publications estimating the age of geological specimens in billions of years. Strangely though he seems to be able perform logical somersaults because he's written articles for creationist journals in which he supports a young-earth creationism viewpoint.

His creation research has focused on dating methods, with his pet project being polonium halos, which according to Answers in Genesis, he has used to "demonstrate" that most rock layers and fossils were deposited by a global flood 4,300 years ago. Strange to say he has been repeatedly passed over for a Nobel prize despite the obvious importance of this discovery.

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18-05-2017, 03:17 AM
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(18-05-2017 02:05 AM)Silly Deity Wrote:  The Grand Canyon obviously should never have offended people with its geological evidence of deep time.

It's those damn facts again. They have an obvious agenda.

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18-05-2017, 04:07 AM
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The exposed layers of the planet's skin make creatards nervous, so naturally they attack it. I've seen fewer claims that the Great Flood waters, as they drained away (to knows where) cut the canyon. Evidently it finally sunk in that one side was hundreds of feet higher than the other. The maximum dept of the Grand Canyon is 6,093 feet, and layered all the way down. So "flood waters" would have to have laid down many thousands of feet, if not miles, of material that would have to be compressed and changed to rock over an amazingly short time.
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18-05-2017, 05:28 AM
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(18-05-2017 02:05 AM)Silly Deity Wrote:  The "Alliance Defending Freedom", a Christian legal advocacy group has filed a lawsuit against the Grand Canyon National Park administrators and the US Department of the Interior on behalf of Andrew Snelling - an "Associate Professor of Geology" at that well known bastion of idiocy, the Institute for Creation Research.


Snelling claims that the National Park would not grant him a permit to collect 50 to 60 fist-size
d rocks. All research in the national park is restricted, especially if it requires removing material.

In an email to Snelling filed as part of the lawsuit, a park officer said the project was not granted because the type of rock he wanted to study can also be found outside of the Grand Canyon. The park solicited peer reviews from three mainstream geologists. One mentioned the rocks could be found elsewhere; all three overwhelmingly denounced the work as not scientifically valid, a criterion the park also uses to evaluate proposals. Snelling, who holds a Ph.D. in geology, did not disclose his Answers in Genesis affiliation, nor did he explicitly say he wanted to prove the Grand Canyon is young in his initial permit application, but the reviewers became aware of his reputation.

The Grand Canyon obviously should never have offended people with its geological evidence of deep time.

Snelling who is a creationist geologist has a Ph.D. in geology from the University of Sydney and has worked as a consulting geologist. He was, for a decade, the geology spokesman for the Creation Science Foundation, the coordinating center for creationism in Australia.

Snelling has been published in standard geological publications estimating the age of geological specimens in billions of years. Strangely though he seems to be able perform logical somersaults because he's written articles for creationist journals in which he supports a young-earth creationism viewpoint.

His creation research has focused on dating methods, with his pet project being polonium halos, which according to Answers in Genesis, he has used to "demonstrate" that most rock layers and fossils were deposited by a global flood 4,300 years ago. Strange to say he has been repeatedly passed over for a Nobel prize despite the obvious importance of this discovery.

Paulogia had a good episode about this, basically the GC Park Administrators have had this requirement for a while, it is a standard applied to all requestors, so they don't have a legal leg to stand on.





They're just upset because they have no chance at passing peer review and they can't generate propaganda by utilizing park resources.

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18-05-2017, 05:32 AM
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Kudos to the scientists involved in the peer review, they seem to recognize what a rotten egg Snelling is and didn't waste too much time with this, they really have better things to do than take nut jobs seriously.

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18-05-2017, 05:45 AM
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I'm surprised that God wouldn't unharden the hearts of these park officers, other geologists, and park officials so Snelling could take his rocks with him in order to "prove" his Creationist agenda er...theory. Wink

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18-05-2017, 05:56 AM
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(18-05-2017 05:45 AM)jennybee Wrote:  I'm surprised that God wouldn't unharden the hearts of these park officers, other geologists, and park officials so Snelling could take his rocks with him in order to "prove" his Creationist agenda er...theory. Wink
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18-05-2017, 06:44 AM
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(18-05-2017 05:56 AM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  
(18-05-2017 05:45 AM)jennybee Wrote:  I'm surprised that God wouldn't unharden the hearts of these park officers, other geologists, and park officials so Snelling could take his rocks with him in order to "prove" his Creationist agenda er...theory. Wink
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18-05-2017, 07:43 AM
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Man sues geologic feature for not corroborating his religion.

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18-05-2017, 08:45 AM
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Anything to keep publicity off what a disaster the Ark thingy is.

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