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18-01-2017, 07:21 AM
RE: ((( Critical Thinking is the Way )))
(18-01-2017 03:33 AM)Jsamuel Wrote:  
(18-01-2017 03:12 AM)Jsamuel Wrote:  "By 1913, half a jaw bone, three teeth, and enough pieces of the splintered cranium were found to allow Woodward to reconstruct the head of Eoanthropus dawsoni, an individual determined from the age of the Piltdown gravels to represent Darwin's missing link. Although named after Dawson, full credit for this critical human evolutionary discovery was shared by the members of the discovery trio. Dawson, [392] Woodward, and Teilhard. Commonly referred to as "Piltdown Man," he was described as having a human cranium very much like our own (although somewhat thicker), with an apelike jaw but with certain human characteristics, particularly in the teeth. In 1915, two new cranial bones and another molar jaw tooth were found by Dawson at a completely different site in a field about two miles from the first. This was taken as evidence that more than one such creature had once roamed the English countryside.

By 1916, the year of Dawson's death, Piltdown had become fully accepted as a single individual (during the intervening years, 1912-1916, some had held that Piltdown was two individuals-one humanoid, one ape-who had been washed into the same gravels) by the giants of early twentieth-century geological history. Besides Woodward, these included the Englishmen Sir Arthur Keith, G. Elliot Smith, and A.S. Underwood; an American anthropologist, H. Fairfield Osborn; and the French anthropologist Marcellin Boule. Of those among the original group at the British Geological Society meeting in 1912, only Dr. David Waterston, professor of anatomy at Kings College, remained unconvinced.

In the Outline of Science (1922), Piltdown Man is described as one of the foremost humanoid branches of the tree leading from man-ape to man. Although its importance to evolutionary theory diminished as new models emerged, it kept its position as an authentic fossil for another thirty years. But in 1953, through tests with x-rays, fluoride, and other relatively modern techniques, English scientists (Dr. Kenneth Oakley, Dr. J.S. Weiner, and Professor Wilfred Le Gros Clark) revealed that Piltdown Man was a complete fraud. The jaw bone and the canine tooth had definitely been tampered with. Also, the cranium was humanoid while the jaw bone was totally ape.

The assumption that Dawson conceived the entire plot himself, or at least was the principal in any conspiracy, is based almost entirely upon the case presented by Weiner in The Piltdown Forgery, published in 1955..."


http://www2.clarku.edu/~piltdown/map_pri...fraud.html


I venture ALL YOU HERE would have been suckered into believing the hoax. Why?

Because you don't DEMAND repeatable, observable scientific experiments before you blindly believe whatever science says are facts, that's why.

Don't try to con me into thinking you would not have believed.

I am not that stupid, atheist types!!


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Yes, you ARE. WAAAY more stupid than any of us. you prove it with every post.
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18-01-2017, 07:22 AM
RE: ((( Critical Thinking is the Way )))
(18-01-2017 07:18 AM)JDog554 Wrote:  
(18-01-2017 07:11 AM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  Wow... Jsamuel really plummeted didn't they?

Did they ever reply to the question of how new discoveries in human cognition might effect other biological sciences?

Consider

Nope.

Sad

Awe....
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18-01-2017, 07:28 AM
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(18-01-2017 07:22 AM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  
(18-01-2017 07:18 AM)JDog554 Wrote:  Nope.

Sad

Awe....

To sum up his posts, it was mostly "I am right and you are wrong", random pictures and GIFs and a few about Viagra and erections *shrug*

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18-01-2017, 07:32 AM
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(18-01-2017 12:12 AM)Jsamuel Wrote:  
Just in case you are curious

I like you guys and made a FINANCIAL contribution to this forum.

Whether you like me or not is irrelevant

I like YOU!

I don't wanna marry you, but I like you


Your posts remind me of this.

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18-01-2017, 07:36 AM
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*sniff sniff*

Is anyone else picking up on an aroma of dirty gym socks in here?
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18-01-2017, 07:55 AM (This post was last modified: 18-01-2017 08:02 AM by unfogged.)
RE: ((( Critical Thinking is the Way )))
(18-01-2017 03:29 AM)Jsamuel Wrote:  YOU would have been one of the suckers who blindly believed the Piltdown Man was genuine and you know it

Don't try to dance around this fact. I would have been arguing with you for YEARS and YOU would have been DEAD WRONG!!!

What you do not seem to grasp, among other things, is that the only thing atheists agree on is that we don't believe a god exists. Most accept evolution but some do not. Most do not believe in ghosts or auras or other psychic phenomena but some do.

When I hear of a new scientific claim I look at who is making it and whether or not they are a recognized expert in the field. I also look at how revolutionary the claim is. If it is a relatively minor update in a field in which the claimant has expertise then I'll probably accept it as likely true because I trust the scientific method. The more revolutionary the claim or the less expertise is behind it the more provisional will be my acceptance. It doesn't take much for it to be noted but categorized as probably wrong or, at the very least, needing much more confirmation.

You seem to have a very black and white view of belief. For me there is a sliding scale from virtually certain to probable to possible to unlikely to almost certainly untrue. I can believe something is possible without believing that it is true.

Piltdown Man was an anomaly which means that my reaction would probably have been "interesting if true, but wait for confirmation". It also doesn't bother me at all that I might have been misled into believing it because I'm not afraid to discard a belief that turns out to be wrong when better evidence is presented.

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18-01-2017, 07:57 AM
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(18-01-2017 12:53 AM)Jsamuel Wrote:  BEHOLD THE NDE SKEPTICS CORNER: http://www.near-death.com/science/skepticism.html

Bunch of wankers who can't bear the idea that death really is the end. Not evidence up to My standards.

I'm sorry, but your beliefs are much too silly to take seriously. Got anything else we can discuss?
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18-01-2017, 07:59 AM
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(18-01-2017 07:36 AM)Aliza Wrote:  *sniff sniff*

Is anyone else picking up on an aroma of dirty gym socks in here?

Yup. Positively reeks of a butthurt ex-TTA alumnus.

I'm sorry, but your beliefs are much too silly to take seriously. Got anything else we can discuss?
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18-01-2017, 09:58 AM
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(18-01-2017 05:11 AM)Jsamuel Wrote:  Maybe I'm just a creative genius...

Obviously not at Photoshop. That is one crap picture.

I'm sorry, but your beliefs are much too silly to take seriously. Got anything else we can discuss?
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18-01-2017, 10:13 AM
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(18-01-2017 04:15 AM)Jsamuel Wrote:  I am indeed considering contributing more money to this forum

Are we supposed to be impressed by this? First, all we have is your saying so - that you contributed and are thinking about contributing more. Second, even if it's true, many people here have contributed financially, but you are the ONLY one I have ever personally seen even mention it publicly. And you have done so now about a half dozen times (as of page 26, I'm still catching up on the thread) as though this somehow makes you special. Facepalm

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