Curcumin - what isn't it good for?
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19-04-2015, 10:37 AM
RE: Curcumin - what isn't it good for?
(19-04-2015 07:47 AM)Anjele Wrote:  
(19-04-2015 06:33 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  No plant is "intended" to be used as medicine....

It's just a happy accident that some things work in our favor....

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Doesn't aspirin come from a plant? Consider

Its precursor, salicylic acid, comes from willow bark. The chemists at Bayer found that adding an acetyl group (acetylsalicylic acid) made it more effective.

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19-04-2015, 10:55 AM
RE: Curcumin - what isn't it good for?
(19-04-2015 06:30 AM)Chas Wrote:  The last sentence of the Conclusion:
"Further clinical trials are needed to fully develop the potential of this “age-old NSAID”."

And the penultimate sentence of the abstract:
"In the current review, we provide evidence for the potential role of curcumin in the prevention and treatment of various pro-inflammatory chronic diseases."

Cherry picking is for Christians.

(19-04-2015 10:37 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(19-04-2015 07:47 AM)Anjele Wrote:  Doesn't aspirin come from a plant? Consider

Its precursor, salicylic acid, comes from willow bark. The chemists at Bayer found that adding an acetyl group (acetylsalicylic acid) made it more effective.

The biochemists have found that the active ingredient accounting for the apparent therapeutic anti-inflammatory effects of a diet rich in tumeric is curcumin. And they have identified and verified a bunch of biochemical pathways and mechanisms of action to explain its therapeutic effects.

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19-04-2015, 11:10 AM
RE: Curcumin - what isn't it good for?
(19-04-2015 10:55 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(19-04-2015 06:30 AM)Chas Wrote:  The last sentence of the Conclusion:
"Further clinical trials are needed to fully develop the potential of this “age-old NSAID”."

And the penultimate sentence of the abstract:
"In the current review, we provide evidence for the potential role of curcumin in the prevention and treatment of various pro-inflammatory chronic diseases."

Cherry picking is for Christians.

Not cherry-picking; note the word 'potential' in that sentence.

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(19-04-2015 10:37 AM)Chas Wrote:  Its precursor, salicylic acid, comes from willow bark. The chemists at Bayer found that adding an acetyl group (acetylsalicylic acid) made it more effective.

The biochemists have found that the active ingredient accounting for the apparent therapeutic anti-inflammatory effects of a diet rich in tumeric is curcumin. And they have identified and verified a bunch of biochemical pathways and mechanisms of action to explain its therapeutic effects.

Not the point. The point is that it has not undergone sufficient trials to know the dosages and risks.

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19-04-2015, 11:28 AM (This post was last modified: 19-04-2015 11:37 AM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Curcumin - what isn't it good for?
(19-04-2015 11:10 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(19-04-2015 10:55 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  And the penultimate sentence of the abstract:
"In the current review, we provide evidence for the potential role of curcumin in the prevention and treatment of various pro-inflammatory chronic diseases."

Cherry picking is for Christians.

Not cherry-picking; note the word 'potential' in that sentence.

That typically means there is sufficient evidence and explanatory theory and absence of adverse effects to warrant the gazillions of dollars required for large scale clinical trials to further validate the theory.

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19-04-2015, 11:32 AM
RE: Curcumin - what isn't it good for?
Comon now Girly... Chas wouldn't be Chas if he didn't run around in circles waving his hands in the air going... "Woo! Woo! Woo!"

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19-04-2015, 12:26 PM
RE: Curcumin - what isn't it good for?
(19-04-2015 11:32 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  Comon now Girly... Chas wouldn't be Chas if he didn't run around in circles waving his hands in the air going... "Woo! Woo! Woo!"

Oh wow that conjured up quite the mental image.

Except for some reason in my brain Chas was naked. Weeping


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And without so much as a mere touch, cut me into little pieces

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19-04-2015, 01:27 PM
RE: Curcumin - what isn't it good for?
(19-04-2015 11:28 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(19-04-2015 11:10 AM)Chas Wrote:  Not cherry-picking; note the word 'potential' in that sentence.

That typically means there is sufficient evidence and explanatory theory and absence of adverse effects to warrant the gazillions of dollars required for large scale clinical trials to further validate the theory.

Right, I never said different. Drinking Beverage

I said that there isn't a known safe dosage or known side effects or drug interactions, etc. because the trials haven't yet been done.

So I wouldn't being dosing myself with it.

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19-04-2015, 01:30 PM
RE: Curcumin - what isn't it good for?
(19-04-2015 11:32 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  Comon now Girly... Chas wouldn't be Chas if he didn't run around in circles waving his hands in the air going... "Woo! Woo! Woo!"

Except I haven't said that. Drinking Beverage

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19-04-2015, 02:47 PM
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(19-04-2015 12:26 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(19-04-2015 11:32 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  Comon now Girly... Chas wouldn't be Chas if he didn't run around in circles waving his hands in the air going... "Woo! Woo! Woo!"

Oh wow that conjured up quite the mental image.

Except for some reason in my brain Chas was naked. Weeping

IKR??? Shocking

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19-04-2015, 04:03 PM
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(19-04-2015 01:27 PM)Chas Wrote:  I said that there isn't a known safe dosage ...

No known LD50 means there isn't a known unsafe dosage. Drinking Beverage

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