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01-03-2014, 10:16 AM (This post was last modified: 01-03-2014 10:33 AM by rampant.a.i..)
Cyanobacteria, our little hero
Unfortunately, in your extended studies, you seem to have missed information about evolution basic enough to be covered in Ask.com articles:

"4. Evolution of organisms takes a very, very long time.
. . .
The key to this misconception is organisms that don't take very long to produce several different generations. Less complex organisms like bacteria or drosophila reproduce relatively quickly and several generations can be seen in days or even just hours!"

http://evolution.about.com/od/Overview/t...lution.htm

How'd you miss that? Can you provide a summary of your understanding of evolution, so we know we're talking about the same theory, and not a strawman parody courtesy your church?

(01-03-2014 06:54 AM)Godexists Wrote:  
(28-02-2014 10:04 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  The inability to describe one evolutionary pathway does not discredit the theory.

. . .
thats adaptation, or micro evolution.

No one with even a passing understanding of evolution would use terms like "micro evolution". That's a church-invented term used to deny half the process.

And if I'm reading this correctly, the only reason you have for rejecting the simple explanation above is "My church told me microevolution doesn't occur," which adds to the suspicion that you don't actually understand the material you're posting, but are parroting misconceptions because you don't understand what evolution states.

Here's a basic primer:

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary...0_0/evo_36

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01-03-2014, 10:18 AM
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So your source of study is "heavenforum"? lel

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01-03-2014, 10:22 AM
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(01-03-2014 09:59 AM)Godexists Wrote:  
(01-03-2014 07:13 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  @Godexists,

Before anyone goes to the time and effort of answering this, considering that you copied and pasted this stuff from other sources, would you understand the answers given to you?

In fact, do you even understand what you have posted?

Nice try, but i am studying this for some time now. Expect that i have some knowledge about what i am writing about.

http://elshamah.heavenforum.org/t1400-cyanobacteria

http://elshamah.heavenforum.org/t1301-photosynthesis

http://elshamah.heavenforum.org/t1538-ch...is-pathway

The next thing you'll be trying to tell us is that it just happens to be YOUR god that did it.
LMAO.
Does your deity approve of stealing and posting the ideas of others, as your own ?

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01-03-2014, 10:31 AM
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(01-03-2014 06:54 AM)Godexists Wrote:  thats adaptation, or micro evolution.

All evolution is micro evolution / adaptation. There is nothing else.

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01-03-2014, 11:06 AM (This post was last modified: 01-03-2014 11:10 AM by Mathilda.)
RE: Cyanobacteria, our little hero
(01-03-2014 09:59 AM)Godexists Wrote:  
(01-03-2014 07:13 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  @Godexists,

Before anyone goes to the time and effort of answering this, considering that you copied and pasted this stuff from other sources, would you understand the answers given to you?

In fact, do you even understand what you have posted?

Nice try, but i am studying this for some time now. Expect that i have some knowledge about what i am writing about.

http://elshamah.heavenforum.org/t1400-cyanobacteria

http://elshamah.heavenforum.org/t1301-photosynthesis

http://elshamah.heavenforum.org/t1538-ch...is-pathway


In that case you will have no problem describing the argument to us in your own words without using text copied and pasted elsewhere or just answering only by posting links with no explanation.

Go on.
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01-03-2014, 11:35 AM
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(01-03-2014 10:16 AM)rampant.a.i. Wrote:  Unfortunately, in your extended studies, you seem to have missed information about evolution basic enough to be covered in Ask.com articles:

"4. Evolution of organisms takes a very, very long time.
. . .
The key to this misconception is organisms that don't take very long to produce several different generations. Less complex organisms like bacteria or drosophila reproduce relatively quickly and several generations can be seen in days or even just hours!"

http://evolution.about.com/od/Overview/t...lution.htm

How'd you miss that? Can you provide a summary of your understanding of evolution, so we know we're talking about the same theory, and not a strawman parody courtesy your church?

(01-03-2014 06:54 AM)Godexists Wrote:  . . .
thats adaptation, or micro evolution.

No one with even a passing understanding of evolution would use terms like "micro evolution". That's a church-invented term used to deny half the process.

And if I'm reading this correctly, the only reason you have for rejecting the simple explanation above is "My church told me microevolution doesn't occur," which adds to the suspicion that you don't actually understand the material you're posting, but are parroting misconceptions because you don't understand what evolution states.

Here's a basic primer:

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary...0_0/evo_36

if you think YOU understand the issues raised, rather than acusing me that i do not understand what i post, prove that YOU do understand the issues, and address the arguments.
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01-03-2014, 11:36 AM
RE: Cyanobacteria, our little hero
(01-03-2014 10:18 AM)nach_in Wrote:  So your source of study is "heavenforum"? lel

heaven forum is MY virtual library.
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01-03-2014, 11:37 AM
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(01-03-2014 10:31 AM)toadaly Wrote:  
(01-03-2014 06:54 AM)Godexists Wrote:  thats adaptation, or micro evolution.

All evolution is micro evolution / adaptation. There is nothing else.

exactly. That excludes evolution above species.
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01-03-2014, 11:43 AM
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(01-03-2014 11:06 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  
(01-03-2014 09:59 AM)Godexists Wrote:  Nice try, but i am studying this for some time now. Expect that i have some knowledge about what i am writing about.

http://elshamah.heavenforum.org/t1400-cyanobacteria

http://elshamah.heavenforum.org/t1301-photosynthesis

http://elshamah.heavenforum.org/t1538-ch...is-pathway


In that case you will have no problem describing the argument to us in your own words without using text copied and pasted elsewhere or just answering only by posting links with no explanation.

Go on.

well, my first argument : there is no reason why anaerobic bacterias would have evolved the capacity of photosynthesis. they lived well without oxygen.

second : photosynthesis is a interdependet system, that means, the Z-Scheme only functions, if all enzymes and protein complexes are fully built up, in place, and functioning. Chlorophyll, the light capturing molecule, only functions in sintony with photosystem II. Biosynthesis of it is VERY complex, and needs 17 enzymes, amongst them are enzymes, that are not used in any other biological pathway.
If one enzyme is not in place, Chlorophyll cannot be produced. That is a irreducible system as well, that works and functions only, if full in place. And you have to explain also, where the enzymes got their energy from to do the reaction.
Unless ATP synthase was not in place, there would be no energy...... and no reactions. ATP synthase is however also irreducible complex, with many subunits, which must be all at the right place, assembled in the right way. Furthermore, information is required to fullfill the tasks. Where did it come from ??
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01-03-2014, 11:47 AM
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(01-03-2014 11:37 AM)Godexists Wrote:  
(01-03-2014 10:31 AM)toadaly Wrote:  All evolution is micro evolution / adaptation. There is nothing else.

exactly. That excludes evolution above species.

No. That sentence proves you have no clue what the Theory of Evolution is all about. The Theory of Evolution "excludes" NOTHING.
Your bullshit was something Christian fundies cooked up.




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