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04-07-2012, 11:54 AM
RE: Debate Help
I have always liked the idea of a murder mystery.
Point to your debate opponent and say "One day in the distant future, a construction crew is digging out the foundation for a house on some land you've owned for several years. As they dig through and expose several layers of rock, they discover not one human skeleton, but several. The police are called in and after some initial tests on the bones, you are arrested as a suspect in the serial killing of at least 20 different people. You hire a scientist who specializes in geology, forensics and paleontology. He examines the bones in much greater detail. He uses radiometric dating to give an age of the rocks in which the bones were found. He examines the taxonomy of the bones to determine more information. Genetic tests, comparative anatomy, molecular phylogenetics, all show these skeletons to be well over 15,000 years and here is why. The uptake of rare earth elements is time-dependent, so an old fossil is going to have very different concentrations of rare earth elements than bones from a more recent human burial. The taxonomy of the bones are more consistent with our earlier ancestors. When we look at the rocks, the plants, the soil of this time. It's all consistent."


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/201...153929.htm
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/200...104010.htm


Consistency is one of the cornerstones of science. We compare what we find with what we already know.

http://forestry.about.com/od/treeidentif..._start.htm
This link shows how we identify a tree. We can do this because all trees share a common heritage.

There are lots of ways to determine how old something is. You can also talk about the speed of light and the tests we have done to measure it's speed.
You can talk about parallax and how we determine how far away an object in space is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallax

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29-07-2012, 04:45 PM
RE: Debate Help
Today I had my second facebook debate with a theist. I don't consider myself much of a debater; I've never been all that good at retaining information like facts and figures and bible verses, etc. But recently I decided to challenge myself by seeing if I could competently argue on a subject that I tend to avoid like the plague.

I like to think I handled myself well enough, however I felt that I made the mistake of veering from the heart of the discussion--belief, or rather the justification for speaking your beliefs. Her argument was in the usual vein of “Christians aren’t allowed to express themselves.” My refutation was that Christians already express their beliefs. Unfortunately I didn’t have a chance to specify with examples like TBN, CBN, Christian radio stations and bookstores, and 99.99999% of this country’s governing body, half of whom think the Bill of Rights should be more or less replaced with Leviticus. I ended by stating that when those beliefs are backed by political power and teach you to demonize others, there is a serious problem. Now I know I can talk about this and hold my own with friend or foe. The most important thing to me is that we can have this disagreement and still be cool. What are your thoughts?

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30-07-2012, 09:01 AM
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I like how earmuffs outline. Show the progression of man and how science is our way of understanding the world. Show examples of the progression, the strides that scientists have made. Then go into specifics on the earths age using geology if that is what you are comfortable with.

And yet another interesting topic I am not interested in.
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31-07-2012, 04:56 PM
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Show pictures from the Hubble telescope that literally shows matter in existence many billions of years ago.

"'Tis the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain an idea without accepting it." - Aristotle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBPqksG9nbA
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