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18-05-2017, 10:49 PM
RE: Defenestration!
(18-05-2017 06:10 PM)Paleophyte Wrote:  
(17-05-2017 12:01 AM)morondog Wrote:  If you get Ubuntu or one of the distros based on it there's shitloads of tech support in the form of forum questions and answers available.

I've used a few flavours of linux, but I reckon straight Ubuntu is the easiest for learning (not that I know a lot). There's a desktop, it comes with a lot of software as standard (web browser, office applications etc) and it's pretty stable and updates regularly. Also tech support. Mint used to be my distro of choice, but they've been sketchy with their updates recently and my girlfriend's laptop had all kinds of problems running it.

Thanx. Ubuntu was at the top of my list so I'll likely give it a shot.

Windoze has gotten too damned bloated for absolutely no improvement.

Ubuntu is kind of the windows of the Linux world. It's not such a resource hog as windows though. A few years ago they got into big hot water with the community for deciding to strike a deal with... Yahoo... or some other crowd of nitwits, and serving ads on the desktop, but they seem to have abandoned that shit now.

If you want something that really looks and feels like windows Kubuntu is pretty decent, but I found it not as stable as straight Ubuntu, and it takes up lots of resources with stupid pretty effects.

The nice thing about Ubuntu is there's hardly any learning curve, and if you find you can't do something usually a google search will solve it in 5 minutes. You can run most windows programs by installing Wine, although I haven't really done that much.

Also be aware that if you want to use a specialist program sometimes those aren't supported on Linux. But office, web browsing and the bog standard ones will all run without a problem.

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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19-05-2017, 06:44 PM
RE: Defenestration!
Thanks, but if I really want the look and feel of Windoze I'll just set my background to a blue screen of death. Stupid, pretty effects eating up resources is one of my main reasons for making this move.

I've already checked out Wine since I may occasionally need MS-Office for my work. Open Office/Libre Office aren't the same if you're writing macros for Excel. Or I might set up my system to dual boot seeing as how it will almost certainly come with some variant of the Windoze virus.

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20-05-2017, 09:38 AM
RE: Defenestration!
(19-05-2017 06:44 PM)Paleophyte Wrote:  Thanks, but if I really want the look and feel of Windoze I'll just set my background to a blue screen of death. Stupid, pretty effects eating up resources is one of my main reasons for making this move.

I've already checked out Wine since I may occasionally need MS-Office for my work. Open Office/Libre Office aren't the same if you're writing macros for Excel. Or I might set up my system to dual boot seeing as how it will almost certainly come with some variant of the Windoze virus.

Yeah, you'll probably need the dual boot. I've never heard of anyone running MS Office on Linux. If you could ditch the macros Libre Office calc works pretty much exactly the same as MS Office in most respects. Don't go for Open Office, it's pretty much a dead project AFAIK. Just gets very occasional updates.

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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20-05-2017, 10:02 AM
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It will always be politically correct to hate Windows.
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20-05-2017, 10:26 AM
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You can always run Ubuntu in a virtual machine on top of Windows.
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06-08-2017, 01:09 PM
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Update: I am never going back.

I replaced the old drive with a 500 Gigabyte SSD for about $200 and loaded Lubuntu (Ubuntu Lite) onto it. My computer flies now. The boot time is so short it's indistinguishable from the motherboard posting. I press the power button and 5 seconds later everything is read to roll. Farewell Loathesome StartUp Screen! Ditto to "Logging Off" and "Shutting Down".

The learning curve has been minimal. It's all a windowing environment. A few Google searches on bashing shells and such is about it. Processor and memory usage are so low that I'm becoming concerned about black magic, the system is so stable that I could moor a boat to it, and the security is absolutely brilliant.

Seriously MicroSoft, WTF? You couldn't manage to pay somebody to make a product at least half as good as what you can snag for free? What, exactly, am I paying you for?

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06-08-2017, 01:34 PM
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(06-08-2017 01:09 PM)Paleophyte Wrote:  What, exactly, am I paying you for?

Unfortunately the business world has been stuck on Windows for long, and it's the only thing that keeps Microsoft afloat. Their entire operation is a bit of a con. They make you some useful software but they also tie you to their operating system. And developers get stuck developing for windows too. If all your users are on windows, you're stuck developing for windows, regardless of your preference for a better system. So both users and developers are stuck using an inferior solution, a situation of Microsoft's own devising, which only benefits them. Mac have addressed this by developing their own con scheme - they want you not only to be stuck using their software, but their hardware too. Linux is the only system that's not trying to screw you over completely, but there's hardly any market traction so... we're all still fucked.

Plus it can't be denied, you do actually get something useful whether you buy Mac or a Windows PC. Just that it's not as nice as it could be, deliberately so.

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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