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04-11-2014, 08:24 PM
Deity Tester 1.0-God fails the test
I made a deity tester to determine if a god or gods exist, I found a thin piece of plastic packing material that has the shape of Devil’s Tower in Wyoming, drilled a hole in the top so a marble would sit in it without rolling off of the top. It only takes a little nudge to get the marble to roll off the top of the tower into the base. If it receives enough of a nudge, the effect will be unmistakable as the marble will roll a bit to reach the bottom.

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Now all you have to do is pray to a god or any supernatural entity to see if the marble moves. If you ask a deity to cure a cold or cancer, it would have to annihilate numerous infected cells throughout the body to achieve this effect in the real world. The amount of energy and scope of complexity of this task will far exceed the simple act of nudging a one gram marble off of a little indention. The same can be said of finding you a parking space or finding your keys that you misplaced, moving a marble is a trivial task compared to such “answered” prayers.
Just about any answered prayer depends on skewed perceptions to infer that a god acted in a manner according to a prayer. I can drive by an accident in the road and see nothing supernatural, someone that seeks out delusion will drive by that same accident and thank god that they were saved by their deity from being in that accident. They create a miracle by skewed perception, we see this process at work with people claiming supernatural healings, finding parking spots, etc.
This test virtually eliminates perception-based miracle claims, the marble cannot move unless a very strong gust of wind blows it off of its divot, but such a gust will not happen in an indoor space unless deliberately orchestrated. If nothing natural moves the marble, then you have proof of a deity-simple!

Here is the test setup:

The Deity Tester 1.0 is placed in plain view of a security cam with the marble in position on the tower.
A control of no prayer to any deity is ran to begin the test.
A prayer is made to the deity being tested including time limitations, and conditions (no person, squirrel or natural thing can move the marble, it must move with no visible force or perhaps a grey-bearded man appearing out of thin air)
Results from the test are recorded on the security cam and logged.

Another parameter of the test is that a believer cannot be left alone with the deity tester, a skeptic MUST be the one to monitor it during the test. This eliminates biased/forged results.

Initially, I ran the test to verify every deity, I specified Jesus/God/YHWH in the first test, the second test I verified Satan/Lucifer/Iblis, the 3rd test was a general prayer to every conceivable deity, the final test was a control, I told all deities to not move the marble or they would be considered a fucktard incapable of listening to simple instructions, the results were as follows:

YHWH/Jesus/God 3 days No movement
Satan/Lucifer/Iblis 1 day No movement
All gods 1 day No movement
No god (control) 1 day No movement

After this test, I ran another with a ten second time limit under constant visual observation, this yielded the same result, no movement of the marble under any offered prayers to any entity.
So in conclusion, there was no movement of the marble under any invocation of the supernatural, does this prove there is no supernatural? Not necessarily, however if there is any deity out there that wants to answer prayers under test condition three (all gods invoked), this test has probably ruled out those deities.
I think that condition number two can also bring under question the existence of Satan, this entity would certainly want to show his power in some way. If he wanted to be deceptive, just nudge the marble under condition three or four.
That leaves the Judeo-Christian god, I’m good with declaring this god non-existent based on these results alone. (Even though there are many other reasons to not believe this particular deity)
This god is unwilling or unable to nudge a marble, an utterly trivial task. The only way a believer can get out of these simple test results is to assert that their god is unwilling because of various bible-based reasons. The bible is an interpretive text, it says whatever you want it to say, so when you make excuses for why this god is incapable of doing the most trivial demonstration of its supposed power, all you have is your interpretation of your book to continue believing, but keep in mind that there are tens of thousands of alternate interpretations for any version of Christianity that you believe.
So if your god can’t move the marble, do you have the right interpretation? Does your god really exist? Why can my simple science experiment yield hard data against his existence, whereas a lifetime of devotion and faith will never yield hard/demonstrable evidence?
Why can’t your god move the marble?

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04-11-2014, 08:48 PM
RE: Deity Tester 1.0-God fails the test
[disclaimer] presence of a cat in the home correlates highly with proof of an existing deity [/disclaimer]

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04-11-2014, 08:55 PM
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This is the same god that performed on cue for Elijah in 1 kings 18:21-39 and burned a sacrifice doused with water in front of a multitude of people.

This is the same god that parted the Red Sea in Exodus.

This is the same god that healed people, walked on water and rose from the dead.

But- he can't nudge a marble.

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04-11-2014, 09:01 PM
RE: Deity Tester 1.0-God fails the test
(04-11-2014 08:48 PM)Smercury44 Wrote:  [disclaimer] presence of a cat in the home correlates highly with proof of an existing deity [/disclaimer]

Or at least a dictator to replace it with Tongue
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04-11-2014, 09:23 PM
RE: Deity Tester 1.0-God fails the test
(04-11-2014 08:55 PM)TheInquisition Wrote:  This is the same god that performed on cue for Elijah in 1 kings 18:21-39 and burned a sacrifice doused with water in front of a multitude of people.

This is the same god that parted the Red Sea in Exodus.

This is the same god that healed people, walked on water and rose from the dead.

But- he can't nudge a marble.

[irate Christian voice]God will not be patronized by your lowly and insulting tests. You must believe on faith alone! Meh Hobo[/voice] Laugh out load

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04-11-2014, 09:28 PM
RE: Deity Tester 1.0-God fails the test
(04-11-2014 09:23 PM)Smercury44 Wrote:  
(04-11-2014 08:55 PM)TheInquisition Wrote:  This is the same god that performed on cue for Elijah in 1 kings 18:21-39 and burned a sacrifice doused with water in front of a multitude of people.

This is the same god that parted the Red Sea in Exodus.

This is the same god that healed people, walked on water and rose from the dead.

But- he can't nudge a marble.

[irate Christian voice]God will not be patronized by your lowly and insulting tests. You must believe on faith alone! Meh Hobo[/voice] Laugh out load

Hehe, I'm flipping the bird to god- and I have evidence to back me up that nothing is going to happen. Big Grin

But all he has to do is move the marble.......RolleyesTongue

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04-11-2014, 09:32 PM
RE: Deity Tester 1.0-God fails the test
(04-11-2014 09:23 PM)Smercury44 Wrote:  
(04-11-2014 08:55 PM)TheInquisition Wrote:  This is the same god that performed on cue for Elijah in 1 kings 18:21-39 and burned a sacrifice doused with water in front of a multitude of people.

This is the same god that parted the Red Sea in Exodus.

This is the same god that healed people, walked on water and rose from the dead.

But- he can't nudge a marble.

[irate Christian voice]God will not be patronized by your lowly and insulting tests. You must believe on faith alone! Meh Hobo[/voice] Laugh out load

I also realize that a response from a theist in that vein is merely a way for them to attempt to assert that their god is real and maintain authority over someone that questions their silly beliefs.

But a better way would be for their god to nudge the marble. Laugh out load

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05-11-2014, 06:43 PM
RE: Deity Tester 1.0-God fails the test
Playing devil's advocate what would happen if an earthquake moved your marble? Would that satisfy the challenge?

Other than that I think you have waaaayyyyy too much time on your hands Big Grin

Btw love the lettering.

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05-11-2014, 07:25 PM
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(05-11-2014 06:43 PM)Full Circle Wrote:  Playing devil's advocate what would happen if an earthquake moved your marble? Would that satisfy the challenge?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C5%ABaumoko

Quote:In Māori mythology, Rūaumoko (also known as Rūamoko) is the god of earthquakes, volcanoes and seasons.[1][2] He is the youngest son of Ranginui (the Sky father) and Papatūānuku (the Earth mother) (commonly called Rangi and Papa).[2]


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05-11-2014, 08:11 PM
RE: Deity Tester 1.0-God fails the test
(05-11-2014 07:25 PM)Minimalist Wrote:  
(05-11-2014 06:43 PM)Full Circle Wrote:  Playing devil's advocate what would happen if an earthquake moved your marble? Would that satisfy the challenge?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C5%ABaumoko

Quote:In Māori mythology, Rūaumoko (also known as Rūamoko) is the god of earthquakes, volcanoes and seasons.[1][2] He is the youngest son of Ranginui (the Sky father) and Papatūānuku (the Earth mother) (commonly called Rangi and Papa).[2]


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My marbles?

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