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26-03-2011, 05:16 PM
Delaware authorities tear down basketball hoops in 2 neighborhoods
My friend posted this on his FB so I thought I'd post it on here.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0ZZHGO5s...r_embedded

Delaware Police tear down everyone's basketball hoops because of some obscure residential code. I don't know the full story, I just know that police authorities enforcing laws against the will of the public frightens me.

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26-03-2011, 05:22 PM
RE: Delaware authorities tear down basketball hoops in 2 neighborhoods
"I just know that police authorities enforcing laws against the will of the public frightens me. "

I agree with you 100%.
Time like this make me agree completely with some ideas that people should represent themselves without an entire bureaucracy between them and authorities.
BTW - check out the police in MY country :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9v0ClnEFso

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26-03-2011, 05:32 PM
 
RE: Delaware authorities tear down basketball hoops in 2 neighborhoods
If law enforcement could only enforce laws at will of the public, we'd be one fucked nation.

That being said, the homeowners in this piece need to retain the services of highly qualified non-Delaware resident attorneys, and pursue this matter to the fullest.
Delaware Legislature is notoriously a good old boy network of corrupt politicians. And the cops are thought to be pigs first and have to prove their police officers second. City of Dover police, Dover being the capital of Delaware, garner their rank promotions through the number of citations they write. And when they write those traffic citations, they illegally check the "Voluntary Assessment" block, which is suppose to be afforded at the discretion of the accused, if they wish to plead guilty on the citation at time of issuance.

It's illegal, what happened here. And stealing those private property poles and hoops is theft.

But then again, it's Delaware! Rolleyes

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26-03-2011, 10:29 PM
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Yeah, I hated it when the police fought against the will of the public in the 1950s down here in the south when they allowed black people to go to school with white people.

Stupid cops!

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27-03-2011, 12:10 PM
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(26-03-2011 10:29 PM)ConditionYellow Wrote:  Yeah, I hated it when the police fought against the will of the public in the 1950s down here in the south when they allowed black people to go to school with white people.

Stupid cops!

They "allowed"?.......Rolleyes

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27-03-2011, 06:05 PM
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(27-03-2011 12:10 PM)sosa Wrote:  They "allowed"?.......Rolleyes

Yes. Because segregation laws did not allow black people to enter white schools. The courts ruled the laws unconstitutional, and so the schools had to allow everyone.

Are you not familiar with this?

Unless you're being glib. In which case, you should still get my point.

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27-03-2011, 06:10 PM
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(27-03-2011 06:05 PM)ConditionYellow Wrote:  
(27-03-2011 12:10 PM)sosa Wrote:  They "allowed"?.......Rolleyes

Yes. Because segregation laws did not allow black people to enter white schools. The courts ruled the laws unconstitutional, and so the schools had to allow everyone.

Are you not familiar with this?

Unless you're being glib. In which case, you should still get my point.

So it wasn't the cops who allowed it. It was the courts, they were there merely for protection, not moral support or anything like that. You make it seem like they were so generous that they acted on their own.

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28-03-2011, 10:20 AM
 
RE: Delaware authorities tear down basketball hoops in 2 neighborhoods
I haven't been able to get all the information I wanted on this, but I have enough to play a little bit of devil's advocate. IF and that's a big IF that pole was positioned such that the kids needed to be on the street to play then I have little issue with this. Yes he said it was a Cul de Sac with little traffic. Yes the pole wasn't harming anyone, and yes as his neighbor I would have had no issue. However we have very similar laws in our neighborhood about people in Cul De Sacs placing even portable hoops such that the street is the 'court'. The arguments of "it's been there x years" or "its not hurting anyone" are not relevent. It sounds like they had gotten several warning letters about this and again the above arguments are not relevent. Now I'm not at all sure why the had to take any of the poles, unless asked by the owners to dispose of them. This I have no explanation for. I also can't excuse the woman who stated that they weren't allowed to taunt the workers, because that's ridiculous. They can taunt then all they want from their own yard. Especially with a State trooper there for protection (overkill!). So if my assumption is correct the city was in the right, but F- for execution. Oh and shame on whoever made the complaint, seriously sheesh!
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29-03-2011, 09:54 AM
 
RE: Delaware authorities tear down basketball hoops in 2 neighborhoods
I've searched for a news update on this story and haven't found one yet.

The thing is, a Cul de sac isn't a right of way. It's what amounts to a dead end with an area for Uturn. Also, I didn't see anything in this report where anyone cared to measure, so as to make sure the 7 foot distance was being violated.
It says a lot though about the residents being told they're not permitted to taunt the DelDot workers, even from their own private property, and a State cop was brought along so as to intimidate the residents to compliance.

What's true nerve in this is that those homeowners who's property was taken are now going to get a bill for the removal.

And it's not hard to know who the neighbor narc was in this case. Just talking amongst each other to see who on the street complained to each family personally, gives a clue.
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29-03-2011, 10:25 AM
RE: Delaware authorities tear down basketball hoops in 2 neighborhoods
Going to play a little devils advocate here:

If you've ever lived on a cul-de-sac, where kids are playing basketball everyday on the street, you would have quickly learned NOT to park your car anywhere close to that hoop. On a street with little parking, that often means parking on a different street, so as to avoid the dented doors, torn off side mirrors, and constant scratches that come from kids diving for basketballs that are bouncing all over the place. Then, when you ask the parents of those kids to pay to replace the side mirror they tore off your car, you are told what a mean spirited person you are for wanting those kids to stop playing ball on the street. And having someone enforce the parents to pay for damages? Good luck. And even if the damages are taken care of with no resistance, do I really need to spend all that time going to and from the body shop? (Can you tell I've been through this? Was told that the damages were my responsibility since there is inherent risk in parking on the street)

Also, did you see the placement of that pole? Right at the edge of the street, which means #1, you've basically eliminated a place to park entirely, and #2, if they get snow there then the person who has to do the street cleaning will likely have to operate a large front-end loader around the hoop to avoid hitting it. May seem like that's petty, but try clearing a cul-de-sac sometime. NOT easy.

Sorry to be the grouch here, but there's two sides to the story. I'd like to hear the other before passing judgement on the person making the complaint.

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