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11-11-2016, 01:32 PM
Democrats need a change
The safe dull stiffer candidate has lost every presidential elections since Bush vs Clinton. H.w. vs Dukakis was different but looking at Bill, W. Obama, Trump. Vs the HW, Dole, Gore, Kerry, McCain, Romney, and now Hillary.

Makes me wonder if Biden did run that would of been different. I doubt he loses more people with that fear of a 4 more Obama extension argument since it was already a factor with Clinton.

On the basis of anything uniting about what do the presidential winners vs losers have in common in the widespread global news era, it's that lamely basic to Americans.

Now, if they want to regain control of states, Senate's, and house seats they really need a change. The simply anti-those in charge will help but the simplest motivator is actually seriously back candidates in opposition to corporate control.. and not be the Democrat party that allegedly claims to be sometimes but is noticibly not.

"Allow there to be a spectrum in all that you see" - Neil Degrasse Tyson
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11-11-2016, 01:48 PM (This post was last modified: 11-11-2016 02:24 PM by Lord Dark Helmet.)
RE: Democrats need a change
It will be difficult for the democrats to right the ship. For months all we heard was how the GOP was sinking and they'll never win a national election again. But they've switched from conservative nutjobs to populist/nationalist and won back the Reagan democrats in Pennsylvania and the midwest. With a more normal candidate like Kasich they could probably pull a 48 state landslide next time. You will never win back Reagan democrats with far left Candidates like Elizabeth Warren or Sanders. Someone more moderate like Booker maybe. Perhaps a Hispanic moderate. A white far left loon will only pull the far left base.

Democrats are in serious trouble. Republicans now control 70% of state legislatures, 34 out of 50 governors seats and all 3 branches of Federal government (assuming Trump names a conservative justice to the court).

It could take 20 years to get out of this hole. And imagine if Trump succeeds? Slows illegal immigration, fixes health care, lowers taxes and has job and economic growth?

And these protests/riots won't help.

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11-11-2016, 02:40 PM (This post was last modified: 11-11-2016 03:30 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Democrats need a change
(11-11-2016 01:48 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  It will be difficult for the democrats to right the ship. For months all we heard was how the GOP was sinking and they'll never win a national election again. But they've switched from conservative nutjobs to populist/nationalist and won back the Reagan democrats in Pennsylvania and the midwest. With a more normal candidate like Kasich they could probably pull a 48 state landslide next time. You will never win back Reagan democrats with far left Candidates like Elizabeth Warren or Sanders. Someone more moderate like Booker maybe. Perhaps a Hispanic moderate. A white far left loon will only pull the far left base.

Democrats are in serious trouble. Republicans now control 70% of state legislatures, 34 out of 50 governors seats and all 3 branches of Federal government (assuming Trump names a conservative justice to the court).

It could take 20 years to get out of this hole. And imagine if Trump succeeds? Slows illegal immigration, fixes health care, lowers taxes and has job and economic growth?

And if he doesn't with all that behind him, it may take about 2 years. NOT ONE person on the Trump team knows anything about health care, (as you don't). The best minds in the country have been talking about it for decades. He has no magic answer to anything, and no real plan for anything. The job thing is a function of global change and globalization. He can't fix that, and has no power to change it. It's a function of the "internet has changed everything". The Dumpster has no power over the major trends and forces of history. He can rail against them, and lie about his power to halt them, (as in "I'm the only one who can fix this"). He can do nothing.

Insufferable know-it-all.Einstein God has a plan for us. Please stop screwing it up with your prayers.
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11-11-2016, 02:50 PM
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Maybe Democrats need to register as Republicans and shape the party that way. (You can't get thrown out of a political party, can you?) That's pretty much what happened to GOP 50 years ago, when it was invaded and then dominated by angry racists. Let history repeat itself, then: let's take our GOP back--to Lincoln.
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11-11-2016, 03:50 PM (This post was last modified: 11-11-2016 03:55 PM by dancefortwo.)
RE: Democrats need a change
(11-11-2016 01:48 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  It will be difficult for the democrats to right the ship. For months all we heard was how the GOP was sinking and they'll never win a national election again. But they've switched from conservative nutjobs to populist/nationalist and won back the Reagan democrats in Pennsylvania and the midwest. With a more normal candidate like Kasich they could probably pull a 48 state landslide next time. You will never win back Reagan democrats with far left Candidates like Elizabeth Warren or Sanders. Someone more moderate like Booker maybe. Perhaps a Hispanic moderate. A white far left loon will only pull the far left base.

Democrats are in serious trouble. Republicans now control 70% of state legislatures, 34 out of 50 governors seats and all 3 branches of Federal government (assuming Trump names a conservative justice to the court).

It could take 20 years to get out of this hole. And imagine if Trump succeeds? Slows illegal immigration, fixes health care, lowers taxes and has job and economic growth?

And these protests/riots won't help.

(11-11-2016 01:48 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  And imagine if Trump succeeds?

Imagine away, little sweetie pie.

If he actually "succeeded" in keeping illegal immigration the US economy would collapse.

He won't cut taxes because then he'd actually have to pay taxes on egomenical shit he buys....like this.....

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OOPS! My mistake. That was Versailles, where the last kings and queens of France lived before they had their heads chopped off. It's easy to mistake it for this fucked up narcissistic shit.....

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or this.....

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Dang it! I did it again. All these rococo palaces portraits look the same.

Here....

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Yeah, sure LDH. He's gonna cut taxes, just like all egocentric, delusional wealthy people do. Snort....Hahahaha. Dream on, honey.

Shakespeare's Comedy of Errors.... on Donald J. Trump:

He is deformed, crooked, old, and sere,
Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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