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24-08-2016, 06:51 AM
Despot Donald brags about pay to play
Ok, on top of being the smarmiest politician since WW2 Germany, this fucker wants to accuse Hillary of accepting bribes, but here he is himself bragging about paying off both parties and "getting what he wants".

Lets just forget his own bullshit stiffing contractors and scamming innocent people out of their money with his fake university.




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24-08-2016, 06:53 AM
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(24-08-2016 06:51 AM)Brian37 Wrote:  Ok, on top of being the smarmiest politician since WW2 Germany, this fucker wants to accuse Hillary of accepting bribes, but here he is himself bragging about paying off both parties and "getting what he wants".

Lets just forget his own bullshit stiffing contractors and scamming innocent people out of their money with his fake university.




Accepting bribes is worse than offering them.
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24-08-2016, 07:00 AM
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(24-08-2016 06:51 AM)Brian37 Wrote:  Ok, on top of being the smarmiest politician since WW2 Germany, this fucker wants to accuse Hillary of accepting bribes, but here he is himself bragging about paying off both parties and "getting what he wants".

Lets just forget his own bullshit stiffing contractors and scamming innocent people out of their money with his fake university.




Well, he is talking about lobbying and donations. In this regard, he is not wrong. The whole lobbying system should be abolished IMO. If lobbying was illegal and political campaigns were all limited to spending just a set amount, our politics would be a lot more fair.

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24-08-2016, 07:19 AM
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(24-08-2016 07:00 AM)Dom Wrote:  
(24-08-2016 06:51 AM)Brian37 Wrote:  Ok, on top of being the smarmiest politician since WW2 Germany, this fucker wants to accuse Hillary of accepting bribes, but here he is himself bragging about paying off both parties and "getting what he wants".

Lets just forget his own bullshit stiffing contractors and scamming innocent people out of their money with his fake university.




Well, he is talking about lobbying and donations. In this regard, he is not wrong. The whole lobbying system should be abolished IMO. If lobbying was illegal and political campaigns were all limited to spending just a set amount, our politics would be a lot more fair.

When you write a letter to you congressman you are lobbying him or her.

You want to abolish that?
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24-08-2016, 07:25 AM
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(24-08-2016 07:00 AM)Dom Wrote:  
(24-08-2016 06:51 AM)Brian37 Wrote:  Ok, on top of being the smarmiest politician since WW2 Germany, this fucker wants to accuse Hillary of accepting bribes, but here he is himself bragging about paying off both parties and "getting what he wants".

Lets just forget his own bullshit stiffing contractors and scamming innocent people out of their money with his fake university.




Well, he is talking about lobbying and donations. In this regard, he is not wrong. The whole lobbying system should be abolished IMO. If lobbying was illegal and political campaigns were all limited to spending just a set amount, our politics would be a lot more fair.

Bull fucking shit. Just like a marriage it takes two. One to offer and one to accept. Now under our current laws it is legal, he is simply trying to say it is ok for a business owner to offer, but not a politician to accept.

You cant call it a bribe then yourself brag and call it a mere donation yourself.

If anyone is to blame for big money in politics then blame Reagan and the GOP for the deregulation they started back in 1980, and the GOP stacked court who allowed for Citizens United.

But he himself cant fucking cry foul while at the same time being a partner to a two party exchange himself.

And this also addresses a nation that has a very short term memory and gets stuck on one personality and that is bullshit because our government is a three branch system. If someone doesn't like what Hillary has done, that is not the same as it being illegal.

Nobody gets to blame her for the lawmakers, which have been dominated by the GOP over the past 36 years on average. Politics in shifts of power are never sudden overthrows but a baton that gets passed on.

And again, that bullshit artist has no business lecturing anyone after stiffing contractors and investors.

Trump is also the same asshole who claimed he didn't need donor money to run. But now that his free ride is drying up, he has no intent on spending any major amount of his personal wealth to run. He is nothing but a fucking con artist. The worst Hillary can be accused of is being stuck in a game she has to play because the other party has for 36 years controlled the narrative and set the tone for long term laws that we are stuck with.

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24-08-2016, 07:32 AM
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(24-08-2016 07:25 AM)Brian37 Wrote:  
(24-08-2016 07:00 AM)Dom Wrote:  Well, he is talking about lobbying and donations. In this regard, he is not wrong. The whole lobbying system should be abolished IMO. If lobbying was illegal and political campaigns were all limited to spending just a set amount, our politics would be a lot more fair.

Bull fucking shit. Just like a marriage it takes two. One to offer and one to accept. Now under our current laws it is legal, he is simply trying to say it is ok for a business owner to offer, but not a politician to accept.

You cant call it a bribe then yourself brag and call it a mere donation yourself.

If anyone is to blame for big money in politics then blame Reagan and the GOP for the deregulation they started back in 1980, and the GOP stacked court who allowed for Citizens United.

But he himself cant fucking cry foul while at the same time being a partner to a two party exchange himself.

And this also addresses a nation that has a very short term memory and gets stuck on one personality and that is bullshit because our government is a three branch system. If someone doesn't like what Hillary has done, that is not the same as it being illegal.

Nobody gets to blame her for the lawmakers, which have been dominated by the GOP over the past 36 years on average. Politics in shifts of power are never sudden overthrows but a baton that gets passed on.

And again, that bullshit artist has no business lecturing anyone after stiffing contractors and investors.

Trump is also the same asshole who claimed he didn't need donor money to run. But now that his free ride is drying up, he has no intent on spending any major amount of his personal wealth to run. He is nothing but a fucking con artist. The worst Hillary can be accused of is being stuck in a game she has to play because the other party has for 36 years controlled the narrative and set the tone for long term laws that we are stuck with.

Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump have shown that money in politics isn't as influential as you make it seem to be.

Jeb Bush and Hillary have both out spent Trump and Sanders yet they were able to hold their own.
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24-08-2016, 07:33 AM
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(24-08-2016 06:53 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(24-08-2016 06:51 AM)Brian37 Wrote:  Ok, on top of being the smarmiest politician since WW2 Germany, this fucker wants to accuse Hillary of accepting bribes, but here he is himself bragging about paying off both parties and "getting what he wants".

Lets just forget his own bullshit stiffing contractors and scamming innocent people out of their money with his fake university.




Accepting bribes is worse than offering them.

BULLSHIT........

The problem isn't Hillary, the problem started with Reagan's deregulation. She is simply stuck with the long term lawmaking climate controlled by conservatives.

If you want big money out of politics, then don't give Trump a pass after he himself admitted to "donating"..... Cant have it both ways. Cant call it a donation when you want something but call it a bribe when someone else wants something.

Trump basically admits in that video what he really is, a fucking opportunistic asshole.

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24-08-2016, 07:41 AM
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(24-08-2016 07:32 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(24-08-2016 07:25 AM)Brian37 Wrote:  Bull fucking shit. Just like a marriage it takes two. One to offer and one to accept. Now under our current laws it is legal, he is simply trying to say it is ok for a business owner to offer, but not a politician to accept.

You cant call it a bribe then yourself brag and call it a mere donation yourself.

If anyone is to blame for big money in politics then blame Reagan and the GOP for the deregulation they started back in 1980, and the GOP stacked court who allowed for Citizens United.

But he himself cant fucking cry foul while at the same time being a partner to a two party exchange himself.

And this also addresses a nation that has a very short term memory and gets stuck on one personality and that is bullshit because our government is a three branch system. If someone doesn't like what Hillary has done, that is not the same as it being illegal.

Nobody gets to blame her for the lawmakers, which have been dominated by the GOP over the past 36 years on average. Politics in shifts of power are never sudden overthrows but a baton that gets passed on.

And again, that bullshit artist has no business lecturing anyone after stiffing contractors and investors.

Trump is also the same asshole who claimed he didn't need donor money to run. But now that his free ride is drying up, he has no intent on spending any major amount of his personal wealth to run. He is nothing but a fucking con artist. The worst Hillary can be accused of is being stuck in a game she has to play because the other party has for 36 years controlled the narrative and set the tone for long term laws that we are stuck with.

Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump have shown that money in politics isn't as influential as you make it seem to be.

Jeb Bush and Hillary have both out spent Trump and Sanders yet they were able to hold their own.

Um no, money still equals power. Sure it can be defeated sometimes, but even in evolution with all life, the more resources you have the better odds you have at surviving and reproducing.

And please don't equate asshole sick fuck Trump to Sanders. Trump is still running for the "fuck the poor" party of racist bigots. He's simply mimicking progressives by playing the same populist card. Sanders really cares, Trump simply plays off fear to get votes.

The wheels are coming off the GOP, they know it, so their new tactic is to pretend to be the party of Lincoln and Teddy because they know now "don't tax the rich" wont work anymore. So they mimic progressives, so they can continue the same shell game to continue funding more corporate welfare.

Nope, the anger may be on both sides, but only one political party caused this mess and only one party is to blame.

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24-08-2016, 07:43 AM
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(24-08-2016 07:33 AM)Brian37 Wrote:  
(24-08-2016 06:53 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  Accepting bribes is worse than offering them.

BULLSHIT........

The problem isn't Hillary, the problem started with Reagan's deregulation. She is simply stuck with the long term lawmaking climate controlled by conservatives.

If you want big money out of politics, then don't give Trump a pass after he himself admitted to "donating"..... Cant have it both ways. Cant call it a donation when you want something but call it a bribe when someone else wants something.

Trump basically admits in that video what he really is, a fucking opportunistic asshole.

He is a fucking opportunistic asshole. But so it Hillary.

The point I was making is that while campaign donations may effect how people elected to office behave one they in office, they do not stifle vigorous political debate as clowns like you on the left would have us believe. They do not have as much of an effect on the outcome of an election as you think they do.
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24-08-2016, 09:07 AM (This post was last modified: 24-08-2016 12:49 PM by DLJ.)
RE: Despot Donald brags about pay to play
(24-08-2016 07:00 AM)Dom Wrote:  ...
The whole lobbying system should be abolished IMO. If lobbying was illegal and political campaigns were all limited to spending just a set amount, our politics would be a lot more fair.

My older sister first explained this Murikan system to me when I was maybe 11 or 12 (she's two years older and has been politically active since she was born) describing it as prone to corruption.

How do you think it will be abolished when it's the game everyone seems to enjoy playing?

(24-08-2016 07:33 AM)Brian37 Wrote:  ...
Trump basically admits in that video what he really is, a fucking opportunistic asshole.

What he is showing is that he knows how to play the game. What he doesn't explain is how he intends to change the game.

(24-08-2016 07:41 AM)Brian37 Wrote:  ...
Nope, the anger may be on both sides, but only one political party caused this mess and only one party is to blame.

I disagree (I'd say "BULLSHIT!" but I'm not common Tongue ).

This "mess" is a by-product of the system since its founding. Rich, white land-owners in power ... lobbying by rich, white land-owners wanting power ... with some rare bursts of civil disquiet to shift the balance towards a wider voting community.

But I don't hear any solutions.

I see a new enlightment on the horizon (see the last part of this post)

... what do you see?
... what do you plan to do?

other than call "bullshit".

Dodgy

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