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13-12-2015, 07:37 AM (This post was last modified: 13-12-2015 12:46 PM by TheInquisition.)
RE: Devine Intervention In San Bernardino
(12-12-2015 10:55 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(12-12-2015 10:50 PM)Chas Wrote:  You might want to think about why people here see you as a moron. Drinking Beverage

I don't want to think about it. I want people to learn to be nice and kind to each other.
How old are you, young man?

Do you even have the capacity to see how you are being responded to on this thread and see that you are not convincing anyone, we're getting disgusted by your passive-aggressive bullshit, your baseless assertions, your general ignorance.
You drag the dialog on this forum down and I think quite a few of us have grown tired of it.

All you do is thread-shit, I just hope the mods can see that your type of behavior adds nothing to this forum and takes away from it.

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13-12-2015, 07:39 AM
RE: Devine Intervention In San Bernardino
(13-12-2015 07:37 AM)TheInquisition Wrote:  
(12-12-2015 10:55 PM)Alla Wrote:  I don't want to think about it. I want people to learn to be nice and kind to each other.
How old are you, young man?

Do you even have the capacity to see how you are being responded to on this thread and see that you are not convincing anyone, we're getting disgusted by your passive-aggressive bullshit, your baseless assertions, your general ignorance.
You drag the drag the dialog on this forum down and I think quite a few of us have grown tired of it.

All you do is thread-shit, I just hope the mods can see that your type of behavior adds nothing to this forum and takes away from it.

Time for Alla ban hammer ? I think we have more than enough of Alla and the clown Q .

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13-12-2015, 08:15 AM
RE: Devine Intervention In San Bernardino
(12-12-2015 10:46 PM)Alla Wrote:  God doesn't take moral agency from evil doers and he doesn't take moral agency from good people.

No. You ARE a moron.
Your "moral agency" bullshit is a pleasant way of saying your god is powerless.
The real question is "How old are YOU ?"

Grow up. (And stop making excuses for you moronic deity.)
The fact is, there is NOTHING you would not, or could not explain away using your drivel.

THAT, ma'am is what is "evil" and YOU are removing YOUR and your stupid deity's "moral agency" by providing your pathetic excuses.
It is YOU that lack "moral agency".
You are THE ultimate dishonest LIAR.
You lie to yourself.

Constantly.
Repeatedly.

Insufferable know-it-all.Einstein God has a plan for us. Please stop screwing it up with your prayers.
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13-12-2015, 09:28 AM
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(11-12-2015 07:27 AM)Full Circle Wrote:  Picture this if you will: The LORD God above is having a quiet afternoon, sipping on some Chamomile tea and waiting on some action when all of a sudden the two assholes in San Bernardino open up. The Good LORD Above having presaged all of this had put into motion that the SWAT team do one of their drills that day so they could save a few of the wounded.

There will be hundreds of thousands of True Believers today nodding their heads as they read this story.

2 Kudos to Mr. Starling for doing what he was trained to do. 1 Demerit for crediting God for the happenstance of being suited up and another Demerit for not blaming God’s lazy ass for not intervening sooner.


Volunteer SWAT Member Rescues San Bernardino Victims From Center
By MATT GUTMAN Dec 10, 2015, 2:15 PM ET

PHOTO: Ryan Starling, the SWAT medic who triaged patients at the scene of the Dec. 2, 2015 San Bernardino shooting as well as the shooters after they were shot by police, is pictured on Dec. 9, 2015.ABC News

San Bernardino SWAT Medic Says He Was Just Doing His Job

Ryan Starling acted as a first responder when the San Bernardino, California shooting happened at the Inland Regional Center last week.

The 33-year-old said in his first television interview since the ordeal, that it was “divine intervention” that he and his squad happened to be fully suited up and doing one of their twice-yearly active shooter training drills, when the calls from the center shooting came in.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/swat-medic-tria...d=35695993

The San Bernardino Firehouse paramedic and volunteer SWAT squad member, arrived at the chaotic scene filled with the scent of gunpowder and victims crying out for help within 10 minutes of receiving a distressing call, because of a police car standing by.

It is sickening, isn't it. I was driving home in the snow last night and all I could get on the radio was a christian AM station. Some delusional guy was talking about a bike ride they were doing for some charity. They were raising money for a cause by riding their bikes across Wyoming. There were severe thunderstorms all around them, to the east, west and south but the good lord kept them away so they could finish their ride, even though there was a lot of damage from the storms in Denver and other places. How can people be that delusional?

On a side note, I can't stand it when people go on a bike ride for charity. It is just an excuse to go on a fun bike trip. If they want to go on an extended biking tour, why do they feel the need to justify it by saying it's for charity. Just do it because you want to, because it will be fun. You don't need to say "Oh, it's not for my pleasure, it's for the kids or cancer research or whatever. I plan to go on a long tour some day and if asked if I'm riding for a cause I'll say I certainly am, my own happiness.

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13-12-2015, 10:20 AM
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(13-12-2015 09:28 AM)true scotsman Wrote:  On a side note, I can't stand it when people go on a bike ride for charity. It is just an excuse to go on a fun bike trip. If they want to go on an extended biking tour, why do they feel the need to justify it by saying it's for charity. Just do it because you want to, because it will be fun. You don't need to say "Oh, it's not for my pleasure, it's for the kids or cancer research or whatever. I plan to go on a long tour some day and if asked if I'm riding for a cause I'll say I certainly am, my own happiness.

I agree, it would be much more impressive if they said,
THEM: I’m going to lay on this bed of nails for charity, a dollar a minute and a dollar per pound.
US: What is the charity?
THEM: Help Stop Stupidity

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13-12-2015, 10:24 AM
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(12-12-2015 10:21 PM)Alla Wrote:  It is all about moral agency. We are here to make our moral choices - good or evil ones.
If God takes away from us moral agency He will become devil.
Does God want to become devil? I don't believe He wants.

You say the most preposterous things of anyone on this forum and that is saying something.

Amazing how you know the innermost thoughts of a non-existent being and channel them through your delusional mind.

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13-12-2015, 10:39 AM
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(12-12-2015 10:21 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(11-12-2015 07:40 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  Where was "gawd" when those two sick fucks were planning this????

Why not drop a meteor on them? It'd be a whole lot cleaner, easier and less effort....

.....
Apparently this god person is also inept at advanced planning....

It is all about moral agency. We are here to make our moral choices - good or evil ones.
If God takes away from us moral agency He will become devil.
Does God want to become devil? I don't believe He wants.

And the dead? They chose to die that day? It was their free will? I spent a bit of time in a New Age group and they say that when an airplane crashes for example that all the dead had chosen to die that day. So are you saying that the victims in San B wanted to die? And that God wanted them dead? If not where is the free will in that?
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13-12-2015, 10:43 AM
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(12-12-2015 10:46 PM)Alla Wrote:  God doesn't take moral agency from evil doers and he doesn't take moral agency from good people.
We are here to make choices both good and evil.
When we do evil choice some people can become innocent victims.
You choose to call me moron, I feel hurt. Thanks a lot, Chas.

People are calling you a moron because you have yet to provide any evidence that a god exists.

To most of us you could replace the word "god" with the word "leprechaun" and it would have the same meaning........like none. So I'll reiterate, unless you come up with incontrovertible evidence that a deity exists then yes, you are ridiculous and spouting nonsense.

And by the way, we are here because of evolution.

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He is deformed, crooked, old, and sere,
Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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13-12-2015, 11:06 AM
RE: Devine Intervention In San Bernardino
(12-12-2015 10:21 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(11-12-2015 07:40 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  Where was "gawd" when those two sick fucks were planning this????

Why not drop a meteor on them? It'd be a whole lot cleaner, easier and less effort....

.....
Apparently this god person is also inept at advanced planning....

It is all about moral agency. We are here to make our moral choices - good or evil ones.
If God takes away from us moral agency He will become devil.
Does God want to become devil? I don't believe He wants.

If people can become gods in your belief system, can they become devils (AKA evil deities)? Why could they not? Why are gods more powerful than devils and not the other way around. Why are they not of equal powers?Consider

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13-12-2015, 12:05 PM
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I like your questions, epronovost. That is why I want to respond.
epronovost Wrote:If people can become gods in your belief system, can they become devils (AKA evil deities)?
Gods are perfect Beings. They don't want to become devils because they became perfectly good. They taste eternal life. Only a fool would wanted to loose it.
But if God decided to break eternal laws, then yes, He becomes fallen angel or devil.
I don't believe that any God ever fell.
epronovost Wrote:Why could they not?
As I said before: they are too perfect and too good and they taste eternal life. They are full of Spirit and Grace.
epronovost Wrote:Why are gods more powerful than devils and not the other way around. Why are they not of equal powers?Consider
Because every devil or demon is a child of some God. If any devil has a power it is because some God gave it to him/or her for important purposes.
Gods have physical bodies and devils are spirits. They gave up their opportunity to have physical bodies. You can do more things when you have physical body.

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