Did Nagasaki and Hiroshima save the world from a Nuclear War?
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11-03-2012, 12:46 PM
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RE: Did Nagasaki and Hiroshima save the world from a Nuclear War?
(11-03-2012 11:25 AM)Dunhill808 Wrote:(11-03-2012 11:07 AM)Hughsie Wrote: I don't believe that dropping the bombs was primarily about ending the war or saving lives. Japan wasn't far from finished anyway, the dropping of the bomb was premature at best and total overkill at worst, the dropping of two was just plain ridiculous. I'm inclined to agree with Hughsie, especially with it being overkill. We could say that the civilian population was ready to take up arms, but it's a matter of if they would actually take up arms. We went to Afghanistan and not many people took up arms at first... but then we started being ruthless and bombing the homes of their families destroying their property, in some cases murdering their loved ones. (not acting out of defense, purely murder) so would the Japanese really take up arms? Some probably would yes, 10 million... unlikely. |
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11-03-2012, 03:50 PM
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RE: Did Nagasaki and Hiroshima save the world from a Nuclear War?
Remember that it took an entire two bombs for the Japanese to surrender in the first place.
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13-03-2012, 07:18 AM
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RE: Did Nagasaki and Hiroshima save the world from a Nuclear War?
I don't believe in atomic bombs, they were never used on Japan. There are no evidence to support it an all the material we saw was just a fabrication so that we all fear the mighty Americans. The Japanese surrendered when the USA Navy sinked the Yamato battleship, not because of some stupid non-existing bombs. How can anyone be so stupid to believe that only 2 bombs can end the war?
P.S. TheArcticSage, do you see how retarded I sound? Reminds you on anything? ![]() I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. -Hunter S. Thompson |
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13-03-2012, 05:08 PM
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RE: Did Nagasaki and Hiroshima save the world from a Nuclear War?
The americans knew of the power of the atom bomb..... they just wanted to test those bad boys on real people I am thinking.
If it wasnt Japan it would of been somewhere else ![]() I feel so much, and yet I feel nothing. I am a rock, I am the sky, the birds and the trees and everything beyond. I am the wind, in the fields in which I roar. I am the water, in which I drown. |
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13-03-2012, 07:18 PM
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RE: Did Nagasaki and Hiroshima save the world from a Nuclear War?
(10-03-2012 05:36 PM)TheArcticSage Wrote: Had the nuclear bomb never been used in World War II do you think it possible that both participants in the Cold War would have been less reluctant to resort to nuclear weapons? First, those were atomic bombs. The nuclear bomb (H-bomb) wasn't invented for a few more years. Second, those bombings brought the war with Japan to an end and saved hundreds of thousands of lives - Japanese and Allied. Third, more people were killed in one non-atomic bombing of Tokyo than either one of those A-bombs killed. Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims. Science is not a subject, but a method. ![]() |
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15-03-2012, 03:22 AM
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RE: Did Nagasaki and Hiroshima save the world from a Nuclear War?
anyone that thinks that if hitler would have won ww2 they would have ruled the world with japan, is fooling themselves. hitler didnt like short black haired brown people with funny eyes. last i checked he wanted white people with blue eyes. if hitler wins and gets a nuke, he wipes out japan really quick. japan was a keep your enemies closer type of a deal during the war. trust me. he had plans much bigger than anyone could ever imagine.
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15-03-2012, 09:29 AM
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RE: Did Nagasaki and Hiroshima save the world from a Nuclear War?
(15-03-2012 03:22 AM)satan69 Wrote: anyone that thinks that if hitler would have won ww2 they would have ruled the world with japan, is fooling themselves. hitler didnt like short black haired brown people with funny eyes. last i checked he wanted white people with blue eyes. if hitler wins and gets a nuke, he wipes out japan really quick. japan was a keep your enemies closer type of a deal during the war. trust me. he had plans much bigger than anyone could ever imagine. Regarding the Japanese, while I am glad they did not win the war on the account of the atrocities they committed I have my doubts that the people of the Soviet Union would have fared better under it's leadership. If you don't know about Unit 731 I suggest you keep it that way. |
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15-03-2012, 02:15 PM
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RE: Did Nagasaki and Hiroshima save the world from a Nuclear War?
Now hold on a sec here, how can you believe that this unit existed and did all those monstrosities, yet you think that the Germans gave their prisoners orgasms? And shows, pianos, food, not-gas-showers...??
You're freaky... ![]() ![]() I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. -Hunter S. Thompson |
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15-03-2012, 03:31 PM
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RE: Did Nagasaki and Hiroshima save the world from a Nuclear War?
(15-03-2012 02:15 PM)Filox Wrote: Now hold on a sec here, how can you believe that this unit existed and did all those monstrosities, yet you think that the Germans gave their prisoners orgasms? And shows, pianos, food, not-gas-showers...?? Unit 731 did very gruesome things, things which I will not share with here. The Japanese procured a lot of medical research testing on human subjects, at the end of the war the united states would not prosecute these 'scientists/doctors' on the terms that they were to hand over all medical related data they had discovered over the years. |
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15-03-2012, 03:59 PM
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RE: Did Nagasaki and Hiroshima save the world from a Nuclear War?
I know, I've read it, it is horrible and the USA is horrible as well, but what makes you believe in that part of WW2 history, yet you do not believe that the Germans intended to kill so many people on purpose, it was Typhus mostly, not Germans... What makes you think that this unit is not made up just for making the Japanese look like animals, even worst that Hitler, only for the Asia, not Europe part of the world?!
I finally got you in a logical loop, no escaping this one, my friend. Hamata, now, get him! ![]() ![]() I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. -Hunter S. Thompson |
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