Did Roger or Francis Bacon Really Discover The Scientific Method ?
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12-12-2011, 04:48 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-12-2011 04:53 PM by Azaraith.)
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RE: Did Roger or Francis Bacon Really Discover The Scientific Method ?
Also, I would read the whole book if it were worth my time. Since it's a PDF, I can easily search for "scientific method" and read jist the pertinent sections. Such sections haven't proven much, considering the uncorroborated claim (without citation at all) that Roger Bacon was a student at a Muslim university. Even then, it wouldn't prove the Muslims invented the process, just that they codified it before Roger Bacon did. Codify != invent.
Also, in other news, Islam showing what it's worth on Saudi Arabia: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...cuted.html Better without God, and happier too. |
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13-12-2011, 02:17 PM
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13-12-2011, 03:58 PM
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(11-12-2011 02:04 PM)AbdelZ Wrote: Post -modernism had even proved that objectivity does not exist , not even at the level of exact sciences, let alone elsewhere, so Ah, I see now - you're a post-modernist. Well, if you believe that science is merely a cultural viewpoint, could you please explain - culturally - what keeps the internet up, how airplanes stay up in the air, how antibiotics work? Science is culture neutral. Science has found no 'immaterial'. Science is the same in Asia as it is in Europe. Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims. Science is not a subject, but a method. ![]() |
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13-12-2011, 08:14 PM
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Better without God, and happier too. |
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13-12-2011, 11:39 PM
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(13-12-2011 02:17 PM)AbdelZ Wrote: But , do not worry , islam will be always there to help you, guys , out of your current & future dark ages as islam did in relation to medieval Europe by helping it out of its own medieval dark age under that extremely inquisitory discriminatory , antisemistic , ignorant superstitious ...medieval church You crack me up man ![]() ![]() Would you say then that Islam is not anti-Semitic, discriminatory, ignorant and superstitious? ![]() PS: Bedbugs always bite me. I think it might be the fact that I'm an atheist. They're pretty judgmental little critters. |
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14-12-2011, 03:49 PM
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15-12-2011, 08:57 PM
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(14-12-2011 03:49 PM)AbdelZ Wrote: haha Reading those books would take me far longer than it would take you to back them up. Maybe you've got the mistaken idea that your time is more valuable than mine, but you've made the claim and you need to do the legwork to prove it. Reading the entire book would be almost pointless for me as well, since it doesn't even mention the scientific method until more than 100 pages in and when it does, the argument is weak at best. He makes one unsupported claim that contradicts any/all other accounts to start (Bacon studied at a Muslim college in Spain) and then quotes the author from your other book in support of his claim. Following that, he goes on a long segment about how wonderful Islam is. It isn't really worth my time to go into detailed research about who "invented" the scientific method, it doesn't change anything. If anything, it'd make me puzzled as to why Islamic countries are so backwards now if they were scientifically advanced centuries ago. You made the claim, but can't back it up, big surprise. I'm done trying here - you've not bothered to attempt a response to any of my points, so I'm done. I leave you with these words, courtesy of Greydon Square: Quote:This is to Islam, and its fundamentalism: Better without God, and happier too. |
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16-12-2011, 02:51 PM
(This post was last modified: 16-12-2011 03:05 PM by AbdelZ.)
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I am gonna repeat myself once again because you don't seem to be able to listen or learn , silly vulgar ignorant intolerant narrow-minded ...Eurocentric ...fill in the blanks , multiple choices still ...freak :
I just placed this thread in order to incite you, guys , to initiate your own inquiry on the matter because addressing this topic's issue would cost me too much time i cannot afford to waste , read those books then regarding something as important as the origin of the scientific method = very worth it Well, if you think vulgar insults are arguments , you must be a very pathetic guy Further more : you are too dumb , too mentally conditioned , too brainwashed , too indoctrinated ...to talk to , silly vulgar freak = these are no insults = deductive logic So, i am not gonna allow myself to further sink to your own inferior vulgar level P.S.: western thought , ethics , formal logic , epistemology ...are not "universal, true , objective " in the absolute sense = not even remotely close , so try to read this great unique book on the matter i mentioned earlier : "Geography of Thought " or how westerners & Asians think differently & why ? by culture psychologist Richard E.Nisbett , even though it's just a secular liberal evolutionary view |
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16-12-2011, 02:59 PM
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RE: Did Roger or Francis Bacon Really Discover The Scientific Method ?
Mmmmmmm Bacon!
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16-12-2011, 03:06 PM
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