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18-08-2012, 04:38 PM (This post was last modified: 18-08-2012 05:14 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Did the scientists convert to Islam?
(18-08-2012 04:01 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  Yes, I approved this.

Good call, Christian. Thumbsup

(18-08-2012 04:16 PM)Chas Wrote:  I'll go with 'good' on entertainment value.

Let's not forget our primary reason for being here. Hell, it's the only reason to be anywhere. Wink

(18-08-2012 02:54 PM)Yusuf Wrote:  this is the plan of the devil,convincing man to not believe I'm god ...

Au contraire, brother Yusuf, I do believe that you are God. And so am I.

(18-08-2012 02:54 PM)Yusuf Wrote:  Atheists hearts have been sealed for there aim is to proof god does not exist, ...

No. That's not my aim. My aim is to fully realize and appreciate that existence is intrinsically aimless, pointless and purposeless. And my aim is true. ... muthafucker.




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01-09-2012, 08:33 AM
RE: Did the scientists convert to Islam?
All religions really do sound the same, haha. "They're conspiring to eliminate god so that they don't have to answer to him!!!" There are so many flaws in this logic.
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01-09-2012, 10:32 AM
RE: Did the scientists convert to Islam?
(18-08-2012 02:54 PM)Yusuf Wrote:  All these scientists did accept Islam due to common logic and
Scientific proof that the quraan reveals evidence of facts that could not possibly have been proved 1400 years ago with out telescopes and modern day medical machinery
Atheists hearts have been sealed for there aim is to proof god does not exist,this is the plan of the devil,convincing man to not believe I'm god
If today a large box where to appear in ur room what would u assume,I mean in a room where there was nothing at all and it was sealed and u had the key,u would say some1 put in there and In no way it could have miraculously appeard,so can this perfect world
And what it contains come from nothing,god is the originator of the world,creator of time and space,therefor we cant understand what was before him,if u count from 10 down to 1,and ask ur self what is before 1,u will agree that nothing is before 1,hence god is the 1st without a beginning,read the quraan urself and decide for urslef.if u bought a television it would come with a instruction manual from the manufacture,god is our manufacture and his quraN is out instruction manual
Read it and u will be quided
If man evolved from a monkey them who created the monkey and why are monkeys not evolving,furthermore why have we stopped evolving,don't be an ape,use the brain which god has given u



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01-09-2012, 12:19 PM
RE: Did the scientists convert to Islam?
(18-08-2012 02:54 PM)Yusuf Wrote:  If today a large box where to appear in ur room what would u assume,I mean in a room where there was nothing at all and it was sealed and u had the key,u would say some1 put in there and In no way it could have miraculously appeard,so can this perfect world

I'd be like, firstly why the fuck am I in here? And then I might inquire about the mysterious box. I would use logic and reason to deduce it's point of origin. If I could not I might guess but I would not say for sure as I would not now for sure.
Then I'd probably leave that room and go home. Make a sandwich or something.

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05-06-2016, 06:09 AM
RE: Did the scientists convert to Islam?
(18-08-2012 04:13 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(18-08-2012 02:54 PM)Yusuf Wrote:  All these scientists did accept Islam due to common logic and
Scientific proof that the quraan reveals evidence of facts that could not possibly have been proved 1400 years ago with out telescopes and modern day medical machinery
Atheists hearts have been sealed for there aim is to proof god does not exist,this is the plan of the devil,convincing man to not believe I'm god
If today a large box where to appear in ur room what would u assume,I mean in a room where there was nothing at all and it was sealed and u had the key,u would say some1 put in there and In no way it could have miraculously appeard,so can this perfect world
And what it contains come from nothing,god is the originator of the world,creator of time and space,therefor we cant understand what was before him,if u count from 10 down to 1,and ask ur self what is before 1,u will agree that nothing is before 1,hence god is the 1st without a beginning,read the quraan urself and decide for urslef.if u bought a television it would come with a instruction manual from the manufacture,god is our manufacture and his quraN is out instruction manual
Read it and u will be quided
If man evolved from a monkey them who created the monkey and why are monkeys not evolving,furthermore why have we stopped evolving,don't be an ape,use the brain which god has given u

There is nothing in the Koran or the Hadiths that is scientifically interesting. If you believe otherwise, give us the evidence.
If it is not clearly worded, then don't bother. Elliptical or poetic verses that might mean something don't qualify.

We did not evolve from monkeys, we share a common ancestor. We and monkeys and everything else continue to evolve. There is ample evidence of this.
I just registered to answer this ، wish its welcomed as a logical argument

1st in my personal prespective i can't built spiritual beliefs on physical theories, cause theories always expires, newton is wrong now, and in the future Einstein will be, its a scientific habit, now science began to state that evolution is probably wrong by evidence

2nd Quran has facts that can be understood only by specialists , and it stated if you can prove that these words are wrong, this method is a method of proving theories now,something like Bohr ,Einstein conflict
Show this to any specialist doctor in this specific topic and tell me what do he thinks

AL-MU'MINUN (THE BELIEVERS) 9 to 14


And certainly did We create man from an extract of clay.


Then We placed him as a sperm-drop in a firm lodging.

Then We made the sperm-drop into a clinging clot, and We made the clot into a lump [of flesh], and We made [from] the lump, bones, and We covered the bones with flesh; then We developed him into another creation. So blessed is Allah , the best of creators.

This process been discovered after these words by hundred years, and wasn't discovered by this accuracy until soon

Theres many stuff like that in astronomy, physics and chemistry, and I'm sure if I know more I'll find more

Einstein has showed a model that can represent eternity where time and space doesn't exist, and I already believe in this , that time and space are creations
BTW Quran tells Muslims to think and learn cause the more i think and learn about matter the more I believe, actually in quantum physics I find the most hard philosophical questions to physists are already solved to me


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05-06-2016, 07:43 AM (This post was last modified: 05-06-2016 08:01 AM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Did the scientists convert to Islam?
The Quran, just like the Bible, was not "written" sui generis. It was assembled. From many sources. It contains nothing that was not already present in the culture of the time it was assembled. It contains nothing unique. For example, the walking around a stone, was already a custom in ancient Arabia, to perform that custom, around what were thought to me meteorites. Many many gods were worshiped in the Kabbalah. Allah originated as the crescent phase of the moon god, Sin. The Quran is one of many many ancient texts that were assembled, generally for political control purposes. The Arabic Empire was vast, and expanding. Religion worked well to unite and control empires. That was a well known fact the time the Quran was assembled.

http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...#pid169445

Time and space do not exist, in this universe, separately. Space-time is a property of this universe. What may or may not be properties of what may not be part of this universe is unknown, at this point. "Creation/s" implies a creator. We have no evidence for one of those. Timelessness may indeed be found (in some way) to exist. it is is found, ALL the suppositions that go with space time will be jettisoned for some other reality. The gods are no more compatible with that, than they are with spacetime.

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05-06-2016, 08:22 AM
RE: Did the scientists convert to Islam?
(05-06-2016 07:43 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  The Quran, just like the Bible, was not "written" sui generis. It was assembled. From many sources. It contains nothing that was not already present in the culture of the time it was assembled. It contains nothing unique. For example, the walking around a stone, was already a custom in ancient Arabia, to perform that custom, around what were thought to me meteorites. Many many gods were worshiped in the Kabbalah. Allah originated as the crescent phase of the moon god, Sin. The Quran is one of many many ancient texts that were assembled, generally for political control purposes. The Arabic Empire was vast, and expanding. Religion worked well to unite and control empires. That was a well known fact the time the Quran was assembled.

http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...#pid169445

Time and space do not exist, in this universe, separately. Space-time is a property of this universe. What may or may not be properties of what may not be part of this universe is unknown, at this point. "Creation/s" implies a creator. We have no evidence for one of those. Timelessness may indeed be found (in some way) to exist. it is is found, ALL the suppositions that go with space time will be jettisoned for some other reality. The gods are no more compatible with that, than they are with spacetime.

Sorry but that first part is totally wrong and missleading and didn't response to my words
Quran was written and mesmerized by seven men, and till now these seven writtens exist and are the same , let the question be:how a man who isn't a scientist know such detailed process and many others while these processes only discovered lately


And as whats outside the universe is unknow
Common sense tells everything is done by someone
If u claim that universe came up by itself ,its not logic , it may be true but u need to prove it first
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05-06-2016, 08:26 AM
RE: Did the scientists convert to Islam?
(05-06-2016 08:22 AM)dimmu.borgir Wrote:  
(05-06-2016 07:43 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  The Quran, just like the Bible, was not "written" sui generis. It was assembled. From many sources. It contains nothing that was not already present in the culture of the time it was assembled. It contains nothing unique. For example, the walking around a stone, was already a custom in ancient Arabia, to perform that custom, around what were thought to me meteorites. Many many gods were worshiped in the Kabbalah. Allah originated as the crescent phase of the moon god, Sin. The Quran is one of many many ancient texts that were assembled, generally for political control purposes. The Arabic Empire was vast, and expanding. Religion worked well to unite and control empires. That was a well known fact the time the Quran was assembled.

http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...#pid169445

Time and space do not exist, in this universe, separately. Space-time is a property of this universe. What may or may not be properties of what may not be part of this universe is unknown, at this point. "Creation/s" implies a creator. We have no evidence for one of those. Timelessness may indeed be found (in some way) to exist. it is is found, ALL the suppositions that go with space time will be jettisoned for some other reality. The gods are no more compatible with that, than they are with spacetime.

Sorry but that first part is totally wrong and missleading and didn't response to my words
Quran was written and mesmerized by seven men, and till now these seven writtens exist and are the same , let the question be:how a man who isn't a scientist know such detailed process and many others while these processes only discovered lately


And as whats outside the universe is unknow
Common sense tells everything is done by someone
If u claim that universe came up by itself ,its not logic , it may be true but u need to prove it first

Mesmerized is exactly the right word for falling for religio-babble.

Good use of the wrong word. Thumbsup

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05-06-2016, 08:33 AM
RE: Did the scientists convert to Islam?
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The odd thing of these recurring islam knew what couldn't be known or wasn't known til now details... is sooo many of the claims were things already written and expounded upon in Greece several hundreds of years prior to the age of the Koran.

Like the silly well there are stages of life in wombs, fascinating... except Things happen to be well studied when you have access to tragic life and death events plenty of times too when you get to study the stages of life... the stages of development and how that relates.

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05-06-2016, 08:49 AM
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(05-06-2016 08:22 AM)dimmu.borgir Wrote:  Common sense tells everything is done by someone

So common-sense tells us that god was created by uber god, who was created by really uber god, who was created by really seriously uber god, who was created by massively really serious uber god
... ad infinitum.

(05-06-2016 08:22 AM)dimmu.borgir Wrote:  If u claim that universe came up by itself ,its not logic , it may be true but u need to prove it first

Neither atheism nor the scientific method has claimed to know how the universe has come to exist, we're still waiting on the research and the evidence.

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