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30-08-2014, 05:59 AM
RE: Diet Racism
(30-08-2014 05:51 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(30-08-2014 03:46 AM)DLJ Wrote:  Am I racist because I only like to fuck Asian girls?

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Absolutely. You are oppressing the women of other races by withholding your prowess from them. Angry

That was a back-handed insult, right? Dodgy

Serves me right, I guess for making racy comments.

Sorry.

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30-08-2014, 06:09 AM
RE: Diet Racism
(30-08-2014 05:59 AM)DLJ Wrote:  
(30-08-2014 05:51 AM)Chas Wrote:  Absolutely. You are oppressing the women of other races by withholding your prowess from them. Angry

That was a back-handed insult, right? Dodgy

Serves me right, I guess for making racy comments.

Sorry.

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30-08-2014, 06:15 AM
RE: Diet Racism
(30-08-2014 05:59 AM)DLJ Wrote:  
(30-08-2014 05:51 AM)Chas Wrote:  Absolutely. You are oppressing the women of other races by withholding your prowess from them. Angry

That was a back-handed insult, right? Dodgy

Serves me right, I guess for making racy comments.

Sorry.

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No, it was a back-handed compliment, you racist fucker. Big Grin

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30-08-2014, 08:05 AM
RE: Diet Racism
(30-08-2014 03:02 AM)PKJoe Wrote:  
(29-08-2014 09:49 PM)Res Publica Wrote:  It is a really bad joke. White people, whether the left likes it or not, have the same "privileges" as everyone else in our society. Almost everything the so called "racists" said in that was a legitimate point, whites have suffered from colonialism just as badly as "PoC", affirmative action is, by definition, racist and black entertainment being hailed while anyone suggesting white entertainment is socially lynched is a double standard.

Just another example of the left's "agree with me or your racist" attitude. It just goes to show that leftists don't care what words mean, they only care if they stick to whoever it is they are lynching.

Affirmative action is not racism by definition. Racism by definition is:

rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/Submit
noun
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
"a program to combat racism"
synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, casteism
"Aborigines are the main victims of racism in Australia"

Affirmative action is not a program that says, "white people are inferior to other races and should therefore be treated differently." Affirmative action is an attempt to give people that have been given disadvantages an opportunity to catch up. If you would like to argue about the merits of affirmative action in achieving that goal, that is a different topic; however, to claim that it is racism is a complete misunderstanding of the word racism.

Affirmative action is by definition racism as it assumes that blacks are incapable of getting into college/university on merit alone. It also assumes whites are less deserving of an education.

And Wiktionary lists three equally valid definitions of racism, the third of which is:
Quote:Prejudice or discrimination based upon race.

Affirmative action is racist by definition.

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30-08-2014, 08:24 AM
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(30-08-2014 08:05 AM)Res Publica Wrote:  Affirmative action is by definition racism as it assumes that blacks are incapable of getting into college/university on merit alone. It also assumes whites are less deserving of an education.

No, champ, it doesn't.

Things you make up are not necessarily true.

The assumption in real life is that merit is not always treated fairly. That assumption - unlike yours - is true, as it happens; do I seriously need to point you to one of the many, many studies done presenting identical resumes and observing the difference in callback rates by race and gender?

Affirmative action is not a great solution, but the problem it is addressing is real.

(30-08-2014 08:05 AM)Res Publica Wrote:  And Wiktionary lists three equally valid definitions of racism, the third of which is:
Quote:Prejudice or discrimination based upon race.

Affirmative action is racist by definition.

If one broadens the definition of discrimination so much that the term becomes useless, yes.

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30-08-2014, 08:36 AM
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My family is multi racial, but we look black.

My older siblings have told me, from life experience, that when I have the option of filling in my race on ANY application, I should choose white. They said that it has always increased their call-back rate and interview rate, and technically it is not a lie. We are >50% white.

And DLJ, I always had a thing for Asian ladies. Well, actually it's really just for tiny slender ladies, which by observation are more often Asian in my neck of the woods.

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30-08-2014, 08:49 AM
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(30-08-2014 08:05 AM)Res Publica Wrote:  
(30-08-2014 03:02 AM)PKJoe Wrote:  Affirmative action is not racism by definition. Racism by definition is:

rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/Submit
noun
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
"a program to combat racism"
synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, casteism
"Aborigines are the main victims of racism in Australia"

Affirmative action is not a program that says, "white people are inferior to other races and should therefore be treated differently." Affirmative action is an attempt to give people that have been given disadvantages an opportunity to catch up. If you would like to argue about the merits of affirmative action in achieving that goal, that is a different topic; however, to claim that it is racism is a complete misunderstanding of the word racism.

Affirmative action is by definition racism as it assumes that blacks are incapable of getting into college/university on merit alone. It also assumes whites are less deserving of an education.

Wow, I thought you were starting to grow and be wiser here but you're showing a continuing willful ignorance of the world.

Here's a tip for you. Extreme side arguments against something are rarely indicative of what the actual concepts merit is. In no way does Affirmative Action imply or assume any of what you've said.

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30-08-2014, 08:50 AM (This post was last modified: 30-08-2014 10:57 AM by Adrianime.)
RE: Diet Racism
And Res Publica, if you think a little bit about the historical disadvantages that many ethnicities have had in the US, especially blacks, can't you see the relative "head start" that the majority-ethnicity having American has had in comparison? I don't mean the current generation, I mean generations upon generations in the past. Dealing with social, economic, and educational disadvantages and leaving less for their offspring (who had to deal with much of the same stuff). It's cumulative.

And not to mention, racism does still exist. I've had racial slurs thrown at me and have been physically threatened to be killed in real life because of my ethnicity. I've had the cops called on me for parking my Prius outside of an apartment complex for 10 minutes (because I looked "suspicious"). I've noticed people being more cautious and follow me more closely in stores (have you ever felt the eye of suspicion cast upon you for no good reason? I can tell you it makes you feel like crap). I've been told my entire life that I, "don't act black." I have an Asian friend who is 27, grew up her entire life in America, yet 3 months ago at a gas station she was surrounded by guys who told her to, "go back to her own country." She doesn't even have an accent!

Given all that, the experiences I have had with racism are mild compared to my older siblings and father. And again, our family as a whole has had mild racist experiences compared to people in other parts of the country.

I will at least admit that many times when people cry racism (especially mass media garbage) they are being over-sensitive, or trying to start a "race" issue when there is not one there. But in real life, it is definitely here. Just feel fortunate that you don't have to experience it in your happy little world.

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30-08-2014, 02:06 PM
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(30-08-2014 08:50 AM)Adrianime Wrote:  And Res Publica, if you think a little bit about the historical disadvantages that many ethnicities have had in the US, especially blacks, can't you see the relative "head start" that the majority-ethnicity having American has had in comparison? I don't mean the current generation, I mean generations upon generations in the past. Dealing with social, economic, and educational disadvantages and leaving less for their offspring (who had to deal with much of the same stuff). It's cumulative.

And not to mention, racism does still exist. I've had racial slurs thrown at me and have been physically threatened to be killed in real life because of my ethnicity. I've had the cops called on me for parking my Prius outside of an apartment complex for 10 minutes (because I looked "suspicious"). I've noticed people being more cautious and follow me more closely in stores (have you ever felt the eye of suspicion cast upon you for no good reason? I can tell you it makes you feel like crap). I've been told my entire life that I, "don't act black." I have an Asian friend who is 27, grew up her entire life in America, yet 3 months ago at a gas station she was surrounded by guys who told her to, "go back to her own country." She doesn't even have an accent!

Given all that, the experiences I have had with racism are mild compared to my older siblings and father. And again, our family as a whole has had mild racist experiences compared to people in other parts of the country.

I will at least admit that many times when people cry racism (especially mass media garbage) they are being over-sensitive, or trying to start a "race" issue when there is not one there. But in real life, it is definitely here. Just feel fortunate that you don't have to experience it in your happy little world.

Yes, some ethnicities have been historically oppressed, and prejudice still exists. But race-blindness is both the method and the goal. Do you think giving special rights to people just because of their race is going to make things better? Is dividing people because of their race via quotas going to help stop racism? Should whites be deprived of jobs simply on the basis of their skin color? Here in Canada there is legal discrimination against whites in education and employment. DO you think that that is going to improve attitudes?

My question is why can't bursary support be given to people based off economic situation and employment be based purely off merit? Why do we need state-sanctioned racism?

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30-08-2014, 02:48 PM
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The problem is there is MULTIPLE goals... and multiple ways to attempt goals and decide upon them. The "goal" isn't simply race blindness Res. There is multiple layers of reasoning already mentioned in this thread to why Affirmative action has been implemented. There is value to more shifts toward economic based AA which is a shift that the systems are leaning to more and more. So to think this world and situation is some this or that scenario isn't useful or reflective of a logical world view.

The anger against scholarship loss when affirmative action took some part of it is childish.. Especially since most cases involves many students competing over many spots. Only a small number of which get effected by affirmative action. The students who didn't get a scholarship lost out to kids who purely merit wise did achieve one.

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