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03-08-2016, 10:26 PM
RE: Dilemma
(03-08-2016 10:04 PM)I Am Wrote:  
(01-08-2016 11:21 PM)omarsabbagh Wrote:  From an atheist perspective, how can we understand the society classes i.e rich and poor??

True Dilemma

I think we should strive for a classless society, in which people have access to decision-making power in proportion to how they are affected by the decision, and access to resources according to the effort and sacrifice they make in their work.

To keep high-effort or high-sacrifice jobs from attaining disproportionate resource control, work should be apportioned in a balanced way, so that jobs include a fair distribution of manual labor, creative work, executive work, desk drudgery, &etc.

For instance, a job that includes assembly-line work might have that for half a day, with the other half split between bookkeeping and a committee on designing a new output for the factory. Or, a nurse might do two shifts a week in an OR, one in the laundry, and one on the Medical Executive Committee.

But that's just me and a few other geeky radicals. Many other atheists will disagree.

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03-08-2016, 10:37 PM
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(03-08-2016 10:26 PM)DLJ Wrote:  SOCIALIST!!!

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04-08-2016, 12:27 AM
RE: Dilemma
(03-08-2016 10:04 PM)I Am Wrote:  To keep high-effort or high-sacrifice jobs from attaining disproportionate resource control, work should be apportioned in a balanced way, so that jobs include a fair distribution of manual labor, creative work, executive work, desk drudgery, &etc.

For instance, a job that includes assembly-line work might have that for half a day, with the other half split between bookkeeping and a committee on designing a new output for the factory. Or, a nurse might do two shifts a week in an OR, one in the laundry, and one on the Medical Executive Committee.

But that's just me and a few other geeky radicals. Many other atheists will disagree.

... This sounds ludicrous to me. What's the point of going through the effort of training for a difficult job for which there are already shortages (nursing) only to be told that you must split your time between the laundry and the job for which you are actually specialised? Maybe in order to have more nurses we should just drop the requirement that they qualify? Then any old laundry service employee can be a nurse too. Dodgy

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04-08-2016, 12:36 AM
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(02-08-2016 12:08 AM)Szuchow Wrote:  
(01-08-2016 11:21 PM)omarsabbagh Wrote:  From an atheist perspective, how can we understand the society classes i.e rich and poor??

No, atheists can't understand why there are rich and poor. God is needed for that.

(01-08-2016 11:40 PM)Aliza Wrote:  Yeah, I just want to point out that someone comes here and asks a forum full of atheists about being rich and poor, and three Jews come out of the wood works to be the the first to respond. Smartass

And one of these Jews even talked about Marx. Coincidence? I think not.



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04-08-2016, 12:42 AM
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(04-08-2016 12:36 AM)Deesse23 Wrote:  
(02-08-2016 12:08 AM)Szuchow Wrote:  No, atheists can't understand why there are rich and poor. God is needed for that.


And one of these Jews even talked about Marx. Coincidence? I think not.



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04-08-2016, 12:46 AM
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(02-08-2016 02:49 AM)morondog Wrote:  Well, it's about do you prefer a happy lie or a sad truth?

Once you find out you are happy with any lies, you should put your attitude above your monetary or social situation in your top prio list.

Thats the problem so many people dont (want to) see.

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04-08-2016, 01:15 AM
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(03-08-2016 10:26 PM)DLJ Wrote:  
(03-08-2016 10:04 PM)I Am Wrote:  I think we should strive for a classless society, in which people have access to decision-making power in proportion to how they are affected by the decision, and access to resources according to the effort and sacrifice they make in their work.

To keep high-effort or high-sacrifice jobs from attaining disproportionate resource control, work should be apportioned in a balanced way, so that jobs include a fair distribution of manual labor, creative work, executive work, desk drudgery, &etc.

For instance, a job that includes assembly-line work might have that for half a day, with the other half split between bookkeeping and a committee on designing a new output for the factory. Or, a nurse might do two shifts a week in an OR, one in the laundry, and one on the Medical Executive Committee.

But that's just me and a few other geeky radicals. Many other atheists will disagree.

SOCIALIST!!!

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totally agree
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04-08-2016, 03:41 AM
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(02-08-2016 12:08 AM)Szuchow Wrote:  And one of these Jews even talked about Marx. Coincidence? I think not.

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04-08-2016, 03:52 AM
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(03-08-2016 09:40 AM)DLJ Wrote:  
(02-08-2016 11:41 AM)Full Circle Wrote:  I didn’t know that.
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I was kidding. He's jewish.

But there are DNC emails that ...

Yes

Secular Jew.
Pretty sure he's an atheist.

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04-08-2016, 03:55 AM
RE: Dilemma
(03-08-2016 10:04 PM)I Am Wrote:  
(01-08-2016 11:21 PM)omarsabbagh Wrote:  From an atheist perspective, how can we understand the society classes i.e rich and poor??

True Dilemma

I think we should strive for a classless society, in which people have access to decision-making power in proportion to how they are affected by the decision, and access to resources according to the effort and sacrifice they make in their work.

To keep high-effort or high-sacrifice jobs from attaining disproportionate resource control, work should be apportioned in a balanced way, so that jobs include a fair distribution of manual labor, creative work, executive work, desk drudgery, &etc.

For instance, a job that includes assembly-line work might have that for half a day, with the other half split between bookkeeping and a committee on designing a new output for the factory. Or, a nurse might do two shifts a week in an OR, one in the laundry, and one on the Medical Executive Committee.

But that's just me and a few other geeky radicals. Many other atheists will disagree.

Not necessarily, but any intelligent person will disagree. Drinking Beverage

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