Dillahunty vs Slick
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08-12-2014, 12:43 PM
Dillahunty vs Slick
Matt Dillahunty and Matt Slick debated the logical absolutes, TAG, and related issues last night on the Bible Thumping Wingnut podcast. Slick is definitely slick. He ducked and dodged, refused to acknowledge fallacies, and generally made one facepalm-worthy statement after another. His thinking is completely black & white and he is unable to process anything that doesn't fit his preconceptions.

It is a couple of hours long but there's some meat scattered throughout. I'm not entirely comfortable with the position that if the cosmos did not exist the logical absolutes would still hold but I'm open to being convinced of that.




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26-03-2015, 12:23 AM
RE: Dillahunty vs Slick
A possibly good argument might be the following:

One could imagine universes with different logic / mathematics.
Like, ones where the ring structure of ordinal numbers is different, for example modular arithmetics - mod 5 maybe. You have 3 objects, add 3 more and you have one. Subtracting 3 from 2 yields 4. And so on.

In that worlds the "absolutes" would be different.

Along with Goedel's ideas, different systems may exist.

If M.Slick demonstrated that one system is compatible with Jesus, another one with Ahura Mazda, and still another with no gods at all, only then one could use the absoluts to infer something about existence of god/s.
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26-03-2015, 01:16 AM
RE: Dillahunty vs Slick
Ooh! I missed this when you posted it.

Thanks, oh fogless one.

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26-03-2015, 02:51 AM
RE: Dillahunty vs Slick
In my mind Dillahunty is the 5th horseman.

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26-03-2015, 09:25 AM
RE: Dillahunty vs Slick
In my mind Dillahunty is a dill hole.. Smile
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26-03-2015, 02:44 PM
RE: Dillahunty vs Slick
I watched the Dillahunty debate, then I watched the Aaron Ra debate. That was funny! He had Slick twisted in knots, I thought Slick was about to have a heart attack. He was reduced to just repeating to Aaron- "you have faith!"

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