Do Christians deny the speed of light?
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18-08-2014, 12:30 PM
RE: Do Christians deny the speed of light?
Doesn't objects moving faster than light create problems with perception? Hasn't it been measured that the space between objects in the universe is expanding at a speed greater than that of light? Isn't it known that the expansion is since the beginning? Wouldn't that mean that flight from the andromeda galaxy will take longer to reach us in the future and that it's distance wasn't always 2.2 million in the past?
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18-08-2014, 12:35 PM
RE: Do Christians deny the speed of light?
(18-08-2014 12:30 PM)drecar Wrote:  Doesn't objects moving faster than light create problems with perception?

No, because objects don't move faster than light. Ever.

(18-08-2014 12:30 PM)drecar Wrote:  Hasn't it been measured that the space between objects in the universe is expanding at a speed greater than that of light? Isn't it known that the expansion is since the beginning?

Yes, but that doesn't mean what you think it means.

(18-08-2014 12:30 PM)drecar Wrote:  Wouldn't that mean that flight from the andromeda galaxy will take longer to reach us in the future and that it's distance wasn't always 2.2 million in the past?

The Andromeda galaxy is close enough within our local group that the universe's expansion does not particularly affect its motion relative to us. Of course its distance will change - that's trivial.

The universe is as old as it looks. And everything about it looks ~13.8 billion years old. No science makes sense otherwise.

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18-08-2014, 12:42 PM (This post was last modified: 18-08-2014 01:04 PM by TheInquisition.)
RE: Do Christians deny the speed of light?
(18-08-2014 12:30 PM)drecar Wrote:  Doesn't objects moving faster than light create problems with perception?

Nothing has been seen going faster than the speed of light.

Quote:Hasn't it been measured that the space between objects in the universe is expanding at a speed greater than that of light?

I learned something new today, they have, but it's the expansion of space-time itself, not objects within space-time and this occurred at the very beginning of the big bang.

Quote:Isn't it known that the expansion is since the beginning? Wouldn't that mean that flight from the andromeda galaxy will take longer to reach us in the future and that it's distance wasn't always 2.2 million in the past?

Yeah, the Doppler effect of the frequency of light is due to the stretching of space-time, this red shift gives astronomers a great means of measuring vast distances.

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24-08-2014, 06:04 PM
RE: Do Christians deny the speed of light?
(10-07-2014 05:23 AM)DLJ Wrote:  Yes but Answers In Genesis calculates Godspeed to be twice as fast as Lightspeed.

... because it moves in mysterious waves.

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24-08-2014, 06:18 PM (This post was last modified: 24-08-2014 08:00 PM by TheGulegon.)
RE: Do Christians deny the speed of light?
(18-08-2014 12:35 PM)cjlr Wrote:  
(18-08-2014 12:30 PM)drecar Wrote:  Doesn't objects moving faster than light create problems with perception?

No, because objects don't move faster than light. Ever.

(18-08-2014 12:30 PM)drecar Wrote:  Hasn't it been measured that the space between objects in the universe is expanding at a speed greater than that of light? Isn't it known that the expansion is since the beginning?

Yes, but that doesn't mean what you think it means.

(18-08-2014 12:30 PM)drecar Wrote:  Wouldn't that mean that flight from the andromeda galaxy will take longer to reach us in the future and that it's distance wasn't always 2.2 million in the past?

The Andromeda galaxy is close enough within our local group that the universe's expansion does not particularly affect its motion relative to us. Of course its distance will change - that's trivial.

The universe is as old as it looks. And everything about it looks ~13.8 billion years old. No science makes sense otherwise.

Sorry Blush Just a wee bit off-topic.
I've heard it said that though nothing can move faster than light within space-time, space-time itself has no such limitaitions! So that it's posible for whatever happens to be inside a specific "bubble" to travel faster than light if the space-time surrounding it travels that fast or faster. Is that right?

[edit] and if it is correct, has that been proposed as a possible explanation as to why the universe's expansion rate is increasing, instead of decreasing, or staying constant? Just curious.

[edit2] ooh ooh! (forgive a layman his possibly silly questions Tongue ) Should we take a break from looking at how objects trapped within points of space-time are traveling away from one another, and focus on trying to observe those points of space-time themselves, that just happen to have objects trapped within them, that are moving away from one another? (idk how we'd do that, but whatevs)

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31-08-2014, 06:02 AM
RE: Do Christians deny the speed of light?
(10-07-2014 05:23 AM)DLJ Wrote:  Yes but Answers In Genesis calculates Godspeed to be twice as fast as Lightspeed.

... because it moves in mysterious waves.

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