Do all sects of Islam wish for a caliphate?
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17-10-2014, 04:36 AM
Do all sects of Islam wish for a caliphate?
I have been thinking about Islam and its label as a political ideology rather than a religion, and have been stuck researching trying to figure out whether or not that it is an absolute Islamic doctrine or just a misinterpreted one that a caliphate MUST be established.

Can anybody help me w/ sources etc? Thanks alot!

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17-10-2014, 05:32 AM
RE: Do all sects of Islam wish for a caliphate?
The few Muslims I know personally do not want to have anything to do with a caliphate. They are all discusted with the state of affairs in the Middle East. I have no idea about the rest of them.
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17-10-2014, 06:40 AM
RE: Do all sects of Islam wish for a caliphate?
(17-10-2014 05:32 AM)wazzel Wrote:  The few Muslims I know personally do not want to have anything to do with a caliphate. They are all discusted with the state of affairs in the Middle East. I have no idea about the rest of them.

Yes I've experienced the same with Kurdish friends, but, I'm not talking about personal like/dislike what I mean to find out is if the caliphate is a baseline requirement across all multitudes of Islam, or is it merely a Wahhabi/Sufi concept?

I mean to inquire rather than to make a statement here by the way. Best to get that out there before somebody comes in with hostility whenever somebody wants to learn on here Tongue

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17-10-2014, 10:43 AM
RE: Do all sects of Islam wish for a caliphate?
Most of the governments in the Middle East don't want a caliphate.
All of the Arab nations in the anti-ISIS coalition are against a caliphate.

As are the Kurds who are are mostly Muslims, and the Turks who are mostly Muslim.

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17-10-2014, 11:51 AM
RE: Do all sects of Islam wish for a caliphate?
Some Muslims want it, some don't. All those I know who live and work in the US are opposed to it. They like it here, and they enjoy the culture and privileges given to all people under our secular government.

Of course a number also support me in my heckling of hellfire preachers Tongue
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17-10-2014, 03:10 PM
RE: Do all sects of Islam wish for a caliphate?
I imagine they'd all love it..... just as long as a towel-head of their own sect was the "caliph."

Otherwise, they want no part of it.

It is, what we call in English, "being full of shit."

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17-10-2014, 03:15 PM
RE: Do all sects of Islam wish for a caliphate?
Wanting a caliphate is sectsist.

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18-10-2014, 04:12 AM
RE: Do all sects of Islam wish for a caliphate?
(17-10-2014 03:15 PM)morondog Wrote:  Wanting a caliphate is sectsist.

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