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07-05-2014, 12:59 PM
RE: Do non-believers need God in order to call themselves Atheist?
(07-05-2014 12:55 PM)TrainWreck Wrote:  The definitions need to be corrected. Buddhism is a humanist religion. Atheism is a political doctrine opposed to theist religious doctrine as the basis of public policy.

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Yeah, let's stop the whole fucking world and redefine everything to satisfy this one idiot's proclivities and delusions.

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07-05-2014, 01:14 PM (This post was last modified: 07-05-2014 01:27 PM by TrainWreck.)
RE: Do non-believers need God in order to call themselves Atheist?
(07-05-2014 12:59 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  Yeah, let's stop the whole fucking world and redefine everything to satisfy this one idiot's proclivities and delusions.

The Christians are going to do it for you - it is just a couple of words.

The Christians are going to recognize the problem and correction and resign you to being irrational.

The least you can do is help this poor girl out:
(07-05-2014 11:32 AM)undergroundp Wrote:  Buddhism is a form of atheism, but can you say that all Buddhists in the world are humanists?

She obviously, does not know what she is talking about - "form of atheism."

You need to remind her of your almighty definition that atheism is only the non-belief in god - there are no other forms of it.Facepalm

You fucking retard!

Humanism - ontological doctrine that posits that humans define reality
Theism - ontological doctrine that posits a supernatural entity creates and defines reality
Atheism - political doctrine opposed to theist doctrine in public policy
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07-05-2014, 01:18 PM
RE: Do non-believers need God in order to call themselves Atheist?
(07-05-2014 12:55 PM)TrainWreck Wrote:  
(07-05-2014 11:32 AM)undergroundp Wrote:  Well, if you're going to try and argue for the definition of "atheism" with a Greek, it won't get you anywhere Drinking Beverage

In any case, there are atheists who are not humanists. Buddhism is a form of atheism, but can you say that all Buddhists in the world are humanists?
The definitions need to be corrected. Buddhism is a humanist religion. Atheism is a political doctrine opposed to theist religious doctrine as the basis of public policy.

Atheism is a political doctrine opposed to theist doctrine as basis of public policy ? Laugh out load
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07-05-2014, 01:19 PM
RE: Do non-believers need God in order to call themselves Atheist?
(07-05-2014 01:14 PM)TrainWreck Wrote:  
(07-05-2014 12:59 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  Yeah, let's stop the whole fucking world and redefine everything to satisfy this one idiot's proclivities and delusions.

The Christians are going to do it for you - it is just a couple of words.

No, they aren't. THEY would have us go with their shit that atheism is "a denial that their deity exists (even though he really does, wink wink)". That's what THEY have been spouting for centuries, but that's not working out for them, either.


And by the way, there is more to the world than xtians, didn't you know?


(07-05-2014 01:18 PM)Leo Wrote:  
(07-05-2014 12:55 PM)TrainWreck Wrote:  The definitions need to be corrected. Buddhism is a humanist religion. Atheism is a political doctrine opposed to theist religious doctrine as the basis of public policy.

Atheism is a political doctrine opposed to theist doctrine as basis of public policy ? Laugh out load

That's how that moron TrainWreck is trying to TRROLOLOLO it.

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07-05-2014, 01:48 PM
RE: Do non-believers need God in order to call themselves Atheist?
(07-05-2014 12:55 PM)TrainWreck Wrote:  Atheism is a political doctrine opposed to theist religious doctrine as the basis of public policy.
LOL! Smile A doctrine is "a belief or set of beliefs held and taught by a church, political party, or other group." Atheism is the opposite of a doctrine. It is the absence of one particular belief not the presence of one belief or a set of beliefs.
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07-05-2014, 01:52 PM
RE: Do non-believers need God in order to call themselves Atheist?
(07-05-2014 12:55 PM)TrainWreck Wrote:  The definitions need to be corrected. Buddhism is a humanist religion. Atheism is a political doctrine opposed to theist religious doctrine as the basis of public policy.
This was discussed with you elsewhere ad nauseum. I see you learned nothing. Rolleyes

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07-05-2014, 02:24 PM
RE: Do non-believers need God in order to call themselves Atheist?
(07-05-2014 01:14 PM)TrainWreck Wrote:  
(07-05-2014 12:59 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  Yeah, let's stop the whole fucking world and redefine everything to satisfy this one idiot's proclivities and delusions.

The Christians are going to do it for you - it is just a couple of words.

The Christians are going to recognize the problem and correction and resign you to being irrational.


How many times are you going to edit this post to add more stupid bullshit.

I don't give a flying fuck if superstitious irrational retards, in the throes of Dunning-Krueger (just like you), think that I'm the irrational one.


Quote:[quote]The least you can do is help this poor girl out:
(07-05-2014 11:32 AM)undergroundp Wrote:  Buddhism is a form of atheism, but can you say that all Buddhists in the world are humanists?

She obviously, does not know what she is talking about - "form of atheism."

Buddhists don't believe in the xtian or any other creator-god, and the actual teachings that are attribute to the man we call the Buddha are entirely secular and devoid of superstition, so yes, Buddhism is atheistic in nature, and thus a form of atheism.



Quote:You need to remind her of your almighty definition that atheism is only the non-belief in god - there are no other forms of it.Facepalm

You fucking retard!

There are people won don't believe in a god and still believe in other stupid things. Like ghosts. Not believing in gods doesn't intrinsically make one rational -- for example -- YOU. YOU are the fucking retard here.

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07-05-2014, 02:28 PM (This post was last modified: 07-05-2014 02:32 PM by TrainWreck.)
RE: Do non-believers need God in order to call themselves Atheist?
(07-05-2014 02:24 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  There are people won don't believe in a god and still believe in other stupid things. Like ghosts.

That is just absurd, and so is this

(07-05-2014 02:24 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  . . .so yes, Buddhism is atheistic in nature, and thus a form of atheism.

You are describing factions of atheism, now. You could simply avoid this convolution by just realizing that Buddhism is correctly a faction of humanism; just as Christianity is a faction of theism.

Humanism - ontological doctrine that posits that humans define reality
Theism - ontological doctrine that posits a supernatural entity creates and defines reality
Atheism - political doctrine opposed to theist doctrine in public policy
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07-05-2014, 02:55 PM
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We could just avoid this whole debate by realizing that redefining words on the fly to suit our agendas is a perfectly reasonable way to gargle Santorum.

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07-05-2014, 03:11 PM
RE: Do non-believers need God in order to call themselves Atheist?
I see this thread is doing well.....

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