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14-08-2015, 11:46 AM
RE: Do you ever doubt your "unbelief?"
(13-08-2015 11:27 PM)houseofcantor Wrote:  
(13-08-2015 10:40 PM)Banjo Wrote:  I searched you out and read loads of your posts this morning. Wink

That's not creepy at all. Angel

I read her posts. I did not install a web cam. Big Grin

I simply found her interesting. Plus I am bored stuck at home all day. Smile

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14-08-2015, 12:00 PM
RE: Do you ever doubt your "unbelief?"
(24-09-2014 10:54 AM)Deidre32 Wrote:  I feel "unsettled" lately as to my "beliefs." I'm forever done with Christianity, but I just feel...unsettled lately. Do any of you ever feel this way? Do you ever doubt?

I'm hopeful that this thread will be a friendly exchange of thoughts.
I feel this is a safe place to discuss all this.

Thanks for any input you wish to offer. Heart

I did for a while, several years, but not for the last 6 years or so. Religion, particularly one you are indoctrinated with from early childhood, has a profound psychological effect on you. Emotions are an automated response to your deeply held premises. Until you remove all vestiges of god belief and the indoctrination you have, you will likely have these feelings of doubt.

What helped me was the adoption of the philosophy of reason and checking every premise I held. I now no longer have any doubts because I know what I know and more importantly the process I went through to validate that knowledge.

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14-08-2015, 12:02 PM
RE: Do you ever doubt your "unbelief?"
(24-09-2014 10:54 AM)Deidre32 Wrote:  I feel "unsettled" lately as to my "beliefs." I'm forever done with Christianity, but I just feel...unsettled lately. Do any of you ever feel this way? Do you ever doubt?

I'm hopeful that this thread will be a friendly exchange of thoughts.
I feel this is a safe place to discuss all this.

Thanks for any input you wish to offer. Heart

I sometimes question my doubt, especially when I have sublime or spiritual moments. Not that I think such moments are divine, but because the feelings I have experiencing them aren't amenable to reason.

As I get older, I find myself not really caring as much about the question of god's existence. But I do subject my outlook to review periodically in order to be sure that I'm not being complacent or mentally lazy.
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14-08-2015, 02:14 PM
RE: Do you ever doubt your "unbelief?"
(14-08-2015 11:46 AM)Banjo Wrote:  
(13-08-2015 11:27 PM)houseofcantor Wrote:  That's not creepy at all. Angel

I read her posts. I did not install a web cam. Big Grin

I simply found her interesting. Plus I am bored stuck at home all day. Smile

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Bored? Stuck at home all day? I've got JUST the thing for you.

Adult coloring books. Tongue

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Ok, carry on.

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Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
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14-08-2015, 02:31 PM
RE: Do you ever doubt your "unbelief?"
(14-08-2015 11:46 AM)Banjo Wrote:  
(13-08-2015 11:27 PM)houseofcantor Wrote:  That's not creepy at all.

I read her posts. I did not install a web cam. Big Grin

I simply found her interesting. Plus I am bored stuck at home all day. Smile
haha no worries, it's all good. Big Grin

(14-08-2015 12:00 PM)true scotsman Wrote:  
(24-09-2014 10:54 AM)Deidre32 Wrote:  I feel "unsettled" lately as to my "beliefs." I'm forever done with Christianity, but I just feel...unsettled lately. Do any of you ever feel this way? Do you ever doubt?

I'm hopeful that this thread will be a friendly exchange of thoughts.
I feel this is a safe place to discuss all this.

Thanks for any input you wish to offer. Heart

I did for a while, several years, but not for the last 6 years or so. Religion, particularly one you are indoctrinated with from early childhood, has a profound psychological effect on you. Emotions are an automated response to your deeply held premises. Until you remove all vestiges of god belief and the indoctrination you have, you will likely have these feelings of doubt.

What helped me was the adoption of the philosophy of reason and checking every premise I held. I now no longer have any doubts because I know what I know and more importantly the process I went through to validate that knowledge.
Being indoctrinated from childhood, part of that is being indoctrinated not to question. So it's taken me a while after departing from Christianity, to feel comfortable just questioning, and being unafraid that a god might smite me. lol I'm in a far better place with it all than when I first posted this thread. Smile

(14-08-2015 12:02 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:  
(24-09-2014 10:54 AM)Deidre32 Wrote:  I feel "unsettled" lately as to my "beliefs." I'm forever done with Christianity, but I just feel...unsettled lately. Do any of you ever feel this way? Do you ever doubt?

I'm hopeful that this thread will be a friendly exchange of thoughts.
I feel this is a safe place to discuss all this.

Thanks for any input you wish to offer. Heart

I sometimes question my doubt, especially when I have sublime or spiritual moments. Not that I think such moments are divine, but because the feelings I have experiencing them aren't amenable to reason.

As I get older, I find myself not really caring as much about the question of god's existence. But I do subject my outlook to review periodically in order to be sure that I'm not being complacent or mentally lazy.
Feelings are all what religion, and the belief in deities is all about, when you stop to think about it. Last year my grandmother was declining in health, and that is when a lot of this started for me. I felt like I needed to cling to some sort of belief system, even though I also announced to many in my life that I felt my view was atheistic. Like I said above, after she died, then I really crashed for a little bit, but now...I'm in a far better place and maybe I needed to go through all of that turmoil inside of myself...to find myself. Heart

(14-08-2015 02:14 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  
(14-08-2015 11:46 AM)Banjo Wrote:  I read her posts. I did not install a web cam. Big Grin

I simply found her interesting. Plus I am bored stuck at home all day. Smile

Offtopic

Bored? Stuck at home all day? I've got JUST the thing for you.

Adult coloring books. Tongue

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Ok, carry on.

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I want one of these coloring books!! Laugh out load

I'm being serious. Unsure

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14-08-2015, 02:58 PM
RE: Do you ever doubt your "unbelief?"
(14-08-2015 02:31 PM)Deidre32 Wrote:  
(14-08-2015 11:46 AM)Banjo Wrote:  I read her posts. I did not install a web cam. Big Grin

I simply found her interesting. Plus I am bored stuck at home all day. Smile
haha no worries, it's all good. Big Grin

(14-08-2015 12:00 PM)true scotsman Wrote:  I did for a while, several years, but not for the last 6 years or so. Religion, particularly one you are indoctrinated with from early childhood, has a profound psychological effect on you. Emotions are an automated response to your deeply held premises. Until you remove all vestiges of god belief and the indoctrination you have, you will likely have these feelings of doubt.

What helped me was the adoption of the philosophy of reason and checking every premise I held. I now no longer have any doubts because I know what I know and more importantly the process I went through to validate that knowledge.
Being indoctrinated from childhood, part of that is being indoctrinated not to question. So it's taken me a while after departing from Christianity, to feel comfortable just questioning, and being unafraid that a god might smite me. lol I'm in a far better place with it all than when I first posted this thread. Smile

(14-08-2015 12:02 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:  I sometimes question my doubt, especially when I have sublime or spiritual moments. Not that I think such moments are divine, but because the feelings I have experiencing them aren't amenable to reason.

As I get older, I find myself not really caring as much about the question of god's existence. But I do subject my outlook to review periodically in order to be sure that I'm not being complacent or mentally lazy.
Feelings are all what religion, and the belief in deities is all about, when you stop to think about it. Last year my grandmother was declining in health, and that is when a lot of this started for me. I felt like I needed to cling to some sort of belief system, even though I also announced to many in my life that I felt my view was atheistic. Like I said above, after she died, then I really crashed for a little bit, but now...I'm in a far better place and maybe I needed to go through all of that turmoil inside of myself...to find myself. Heart

(14-08-2015 02:14 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  Offtopic

Bored? Stuck at home all day? I've got JUST the thing for you.

Adult coloring books. Tongue

[Image: abstract-coloring-page-by-thaneeya.jpg]

Ok, carry on.

Big Grin

I want one of these coloring books!! Laugh out load

I'm being serious. Unsure

I hear their very calming to do and help with stress. I think they have them at Craft Warehouse or other art supply stores. Next time I go there I'm going to buy one.

Sorry about derailing the thread folks.

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He is deformed, crooked, old, and sere,
Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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14-08-2015, 03:11 PM
RE: Do you ever doubt your "unbelief?"
I just saw tons of them at Michael's. Some look very cool and intricate. Smile

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14-08-2015, 06:07 PM
RE: Do you ever doubt your "unbelief?"
We could all buy our very own coloring books, and then post our pictures in a separate thread when finished.

I'm again being serious. Big Grin

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14-08-2015, 06:16 PM
RE: Do you ever doubt your "unbelief?"
(14-08-2015 02:14 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  Bored? Stuck at home all day? I've got JUST the thing for you.

Adult coloring books. Tongue

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Ok, carry on.

That's not the image I had when I read "adult coloring books". Consider

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14-08-2015, 06:34 PM
RE: Do you ever doubt your "unbelief?"
(14-08-2015 06:16 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(14-08-2015 02:14 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  Bored? Stuck at home all day? I've got JUST the thing for you.

Adult coloring books. Tongue

[Image: abstract-coloring-page-by-thaneeya.jpg]

Ok, carry on.

That's not the image I had when I read "adult coloring books". Consider

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He is deformed, crooked, old, and sere,
Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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