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18-05-2012, 07:05 AM
RE: Do you have pets?
(18-05-2012 04:43 AM)IsabellaTom Wrote:  I think no one will dislike pets. I adopt cats and dogs in my house. I have rabbits in my garden. I have let them freely, because I don’t like to ruin their freedom by caging them.


I bet you parents are not that happy with all those pets running around?

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18-05-2012, 07:13 AM (This post was last modified: 18-05-2012 07:29 AM by whateverist.)
RE: Do you have pets?
I have two dogs. Laying down in this picture is Fletcher, an Australian Shepherd who is now 13 years old. Heidi Rose, sitting on the bench, is a 3 year old Heeler X Aussie, sometimes called a Texas Heeler. They're both working breeds and their job in life is seeing that I get lots of exercise by giving them regular walks. They take their work very seriously.

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Fletcher and Heidi want to thank everyone for coming to the party. They thoroughly enjoyed you. by serialplantfetishist, on Flickr

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21-05-2012, 09:10 AM
RE: Do you have pets?
(18-05-2012 07:13 AM)whateverist Wrote:  I have two dogs. Laying down in this picture is Fletcher, an Australian Shepherd who is now 13 years old. Heidi Rose, sitting on the bench, is a 3 year old Heeler X Aussie, sometimes called a Texas Heeler. [...]

Beautiful dogs, and the garden is lovely aw well. My uncle has an Australian Shepherd that is old as dirt. His name is Guess (my uncle has a thing for naming his animals after clothing lines). What's a little sad and funny at the same time is that the poor guy is blind in one eye and can barely see out the other, so the name fits.
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21-05-2012, 11:53 PM
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Took my cat fatboy to the vet a few days ago for his immunization.As a rule he isn't too bad but it was a really bad day. The surgery was really packed with huge dogs and a smaller one that did poo on the floor.

After a 15 minutes of waiting we were called in; fatboy was extremely stressed out and attacked the vet. She was not amused. After calming down (both of them) the vibes weren't very good at all. It was time for the worm tablet and guess what ?the fat fellow attempted a biting ....... bad cat!

He is 7 years old and was originally named Ghandi and rercorded such at the vet clinic though we always called him fatboy from late kittenhood. i suggested to the vet that we change his name on the records to Fatboy by deed poll.

She gave me a really funny look but now its all official.

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27-05-2012, 08:58 AM
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27-05-2012, 09:34 AM
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Hey Dom,

Sorry about you recent losses. Drago looks like a wonderful boy, attack trained or not I think anyone with bad intent may go elsewhere after a look at him. Smile I wish more people realized a gun is the "oops it a little late in this crisis" tool and relied on dogs, lights and alarms first.

We have 2 cats right now. We both work long hours with a long commute so a it wouldn't be fair to a dog. I have owned GSD's in the past an absolutely love them. Our condo association banned dogs over 60 pounds to keep out "dangerous" dogs, the only dog in the building is a pit bull. We both love big dogs so until we move I'm dogless.

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27-05-2012, 10:20 AM (This post was last modified: 27-05-2012 10:48 AM by Dom.)
RE: Do you have pets?
(27-05-2012 09:34 AM)KidCharlemagne1962 Wrote:  Hey Dom,

Sorry about you recent losses. Drago looks like a wonderful boy, attack trained or not I think anyone with bad intent may go elsewhere after a look at him. Smile I wish more people realized a gun is the "oops it a little late in this crisis" tool and relied on dogs, lights and alarms first.

We have 2 cats right now. We both work long hours with a long commute so a it wouldn't be fair to a dog. I have owned GSD's in the past an absolutely love them. Our condo association banned dogs over 60 pounds to keep out "dangerous" dogs, the only dog in the building is a pit bull. We both love big dogs so until we move I'm dogless.



Thanks. Smile I love cats too, and birds and rabbits and whatnot. Animals are great company.

I have to comment on the "attack dog".

There are 4 different categories:

Attack dogs: Will bite anyone at any time and generally got to be that way by being trained to be agressive, much like dogs used in dog fighting but with human decoys. These poor dogs have no life because everything in their life is flight or fight and they have been taught to choose fight. These are your "junk yard dogs".

Guard dogs: These will not bite (unless provoked) but they will raise heaven and hell at the sight of a stranger near their territory. They are often big and intimidating, but can be small too. My little Lhasa Apso is actually a guard breed, they hail from the Himalayas and were found in monasteries. They were inside dogs for the most part, and they worked in tandem with a larger, outdoor breed. The Lhasas would alarm and the big dogs would act on it. So a guard dog is like a burglar alarm. Mine is lazy though and only protects the car for some reason. Put him in a car and the little thing is ferocious.

Protection dogs or Schutzhunds: These have very meticulous breeding for many, many generations (like 200 years) for a sweet basic disposition, fearlessness and superior nose and learning ability. Police dogs come from the same stock. They have years of training and will be happy letting babies pull on their ears one minute, and chasing down a burglar the next. They will bite, but only in very specific situations, and they will out instantly on command by the owner but continue to guard and in serious situations help the owner "escort" a criminal to a place to meet with police. They make great family dogs and are trustworthy in any situation.

Police dogs: Same basic type as the protection dogs, and often they are trained side by side for the first couple of years. The police dog gets extra training, they are athletes and will scale walls and some even climb ladders. There is more training in tracking (finding people and objects, protection dogs do this too but not as extensively as police dogs), and basically all things taught to a protection dog are taken a step further with a police dog. Most police dogs can work on auto pilot, only some protection dogs will do that.

I thought I'd clear that up, these 4 types are very different animals. If you get caught in the cross hairs of a protection or police dog, stand still and you will be unscathed. No such luck with the other two types, they are generally bad news, even the guard dog can attack if you intrude in their territory, and they have no built in safe guards.

Schutzhund is also a sport, there are clubs everywhere and people compete with their dogs in tracking, obedience and protection. (Dogs have to be well socialized and good with people, as well as proficent in all 3 training categories). These dogs are amazingly in tune with the owner, they say that your feelings (happy, alarmed, concentration, etc etc) travel down the leash into the dog, even when the dog's back is turned to you.

Here is Drago on patrol, he does this a lot, on his own accord, it's a fun past time for him:






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Just hanging:



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27-05-2012, 11:27 AM
RE: Do you have pets?
(27-05-2012 10:20 AM)Dom Wrote:  
(27-05-2012 09:34 AM)KidCharlemagne1962 Wrote:  Hey Dom,

Sorry about you recent losses. Drago looks like a wonderful boy, attack trained or not I think anyone with bad intent may go elsewhere after a look at him. Smile I wish more people realized a gun is the "oops it a little late in this crisis" tool and relied on dogs, lights and alarms first.

We have 2 cats right now. We both work long hours with a long commute so a it wouldn't be fair to a dog. I have owned GSD's in the past an absolutely love them. Our condo association banned dogs over 60 pounds to keep out "dangerous" dogs, the only dog in the building is a pit bull. We both love big dogs so until we move I'm dogless.



Thanks. Smile I love cats too, and birds and rabbits and whatnot. Animals are great company.

I have to comment on the "attack dog".

There are 4 different categories:

Attack dogs: Will bite anyone at any time and generally got to be that way by being trained to be agressive, much like dogs used in dog fighting but with human decoys. These poor dogs have no life because everything in their life is flight or fight and they have been taught to choose fight. These are your "junk yard dogs".

Guard dogs: These will not bite (unless provoked) but they will raise heaven and hell at the sight of a stranger near their territory. They are often big and intimidating, but can be small too. My little Lhasa Apso is actually a guard breed, they hail from the Himalayas and were found in monasteries. They were inside dogs for the most part, and they worked in tandem with a larger, outdoor breed. The Lhasas would alarm and the big dogs would act on it. So a guard dog is like a burglar alarm. Mine is lazy though and only protects the car for some reason. Put him in a car and the little thing is ferocious.

Protection dogs or Schutzhunds: These have very meticulous breeding for many, many generations (like 200 years) for a sweet basic disposition, fearlessness and superior nose and learning ability. Police dogs come from the same stock. They have years of training and will be happy letting babies pull on their ears one minute, and chasing down a burglar the next. They will bite, but only in very specific situations, and they will out instantly on command by the owner but continue to guard and in serious situations help the owner "escort" a criminal to a place to meet with police. They make great family dogs and are trustworthy in any situation.

Police dogs: Same basic type as the protection dogs, and often they are trained side by side for the first couple of years. The police dog gets extra training, they are athletes and will scale walls and some even climb ladders. There is more training in tracking (finding people and objects, protection dogs do this too but not as extensively as police dogs), and basically all things taught to a protection dog are taken a step further with a police dog. Most police dogs can work on auto pilot, only some protection dogs will do that.

I thought I'd clear that up, these 4 types are very different animals. If you get caught in the cross hairs of a protection or police dog, stand still and you will be unscathed. No such luck with the other two types, they are generally bad news, even the guard dog can attack if you intrude in their territory, and they have no built in safe guards.

Schutzhund is also a sport, there are clubs everywhere and people compete with their dogs in tracking, obedience and protection. (Dogs have to be well socialized and good with people, as well as proficent in all 3 training categories). These dogs are amazingly in tune with the owner, they say that your feelings (happy, alarmed, concentration, etc etc) travel down the leash into the dog, even when the dog's back is turned to you.

Here is Drago on patrol, he does this a lot, on his own accord, it's a fun past time for him:






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Just hanging:



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That is a good breakdown. I was an ACO and dealt with all types. We had some moron trying to train an unstable GSD for protection. He couldn't get it to sit on command Smile

I once picked up a protection dog that some kids let loose as a joke. I never felt like he would do anything crazy, just a great stable dog. I'd like to get into schutzhund training when we can get a dog but insurers around here freak out, the dog they don't need to worry about and they give you trouble.

We get a lot of "dangerous breed" law proposals because we had a rash of idiots with dogs that require stable owners, I think most people lump attack dogs into the police/protection category.

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27-05-2012, 12:50 PM
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I'll have to get a pic of my very fierce 14 pound Rat Terrier mix on patrol...as she runs and leaps like a gazelle when someone dares walk near out fence...I am sure she is very frightening.

My dogs are all small but they sure alert us to anyone being near the house...we are safe. Big Grin

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27-05-2012, 01:25 PM
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Quote:That is a good breakdown. I was an ACO and dealt with all types. We had some moron trying to train an unstable GSD for protection. He couldn't get it to sit on command [Image: smile.gif]

I once picked up a protection dog that some kids let loose as a joke. I never felt like he would do anything crazy, just a great stable dog. I'd like to get into schutzhund training when we can get a dog but insurers around here freak out, the dog they don't need to worry about and they give you trouble.

We get a lot of "dangerous breed" law proposals because we had a rash of idiots with dogs that require stable owners, I think most people lump attack dogs into the police/protection category.

ACO = Animal Control officer?

State Farm will insure you....

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In Michigan and Pennsylvania, it's illegal for home insurers to deny coverage simply because a home has a dog of a particular breed, according to III. Other states have similar laws pending.

Some insurance companies will sell you coverage regardless of what type of breed you own. Jeff McCollum, spokesperson for State Farm, says that there are good and bad dogs within each breed, just like there are responsible and irresponsible dog owners.

"State Farm does not discriminate against certain breeds," McCollum says.

Ohio is the exception. It has a statute that labels a pit bull as a "vicious dog." Therefore, State Farm does not offer coverage under its home insurance policies for pit bulls in Ohio.

State Farm does require policyholders to answer questions about dogs on their home insurance applications. Specifically, the company wants to know if a dog has ever bitten anyone or if it has been trained for attack purposes.

If the dog has bitten someone, State Farm will want to know the circumstances surrounding the bite to determine if it is likely to happen again and if precautions have been taken to prevent it. Other factors the company looks at are the seriousness of the injury and whether the attack was provoked or unprovoked.

State Farm has paid out roughly $80 million annually, from 2002 to 2008, for dog bite-related claims, McCollum says. While the overall number of bites appears to be decreasing, the rise of medical costs per incident offsets the decrease, he adds.



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(27-05-2012 12:50 PM)Anjele Wrote:  I'll have to get a pic of my very fierce 14 pound Rat Terrier mix on patrol...as she runs and leaps like a gazelle when someone dares walk near out fence...I am sure she is very frightening.

My dogs are all small but they sure alert us to anyone being near the house...we are safe. Big Grin

And we know when a storm is coming long before weather radar...Chopper starts barking when it thunders in Oklahoma...an hour and a half away!


We had a rat terrier years ago. We lived in the middle of a bunch of fields, and when the fields were irrigated, rats came rushing into our yard.

This little dog was amazing, she would run, grab a rat by the neck and drop it - it was dead and it took seconds. She cleaned the whole mess of fields up in not time.

She was a total clown too, you could just sit in the garden and let her entertain you.

But the funniest thing was that she was a miniature Schutzhund. We had a lot of space so sometimes did training on the property. So one day we had a decoy guy sneek around. Well, the rat terrier spotted him before the Shepherd did, and in a flash she was hanging off his arm, she didn't fool around lol. Then the Shepherd came in and grabbed the other arm. When I told him to out, they both outed and barked at the guy. It was hilarious. She was scared of nothing and thought everything was a great game. You should have seen the face of the decoy guy, he'd been doing this for years and never saw her coming. (For those who don't know the sport, the guy is well protected, this one was wearing a full protection suit under his clothing)).

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