Do you speak, what any religion is a lie?
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27-11-2016, 04:14 PM
RE: Do you speak, what any religion is a lie?
(27-11-2016 02:46 PM)theBorg Wrote:  
(27-11-2016 02:32 PM)Gloucester Wrote:  Any belief system that involves undetectable supernatural entities or unrepeatable, unprovable events should be considered, at best, with a very high degree of scepticism by a rational human,

To accept the above unquestioningly would not appear to indcate a high degree of rational intelligence.

That sone humans have some sort of psychological faculty or need for such a "prop" does appear to be possible. That does not make it real.

There is such notion as "hope". Even the perfectly sane people can hope, what there is an afterlife. Correct?

It is just as "sane" to hope that I will wake up 12cm taller, 40 years younger and better looking tomorrow, or that a fairy has left a bag of gold for me to buy a better home, as to hope for a "life ever after."

Being both fairly sane and fairly rational I believe all such hopes are baseless.

That I might hope to win a million, or more, should I buy a single lottery ticket? Calculatable and possible.

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27-11-2016, 04:24 PM
RE: Do you speak, what any religion is a lie?
(27-11-2016 01:33 PM)theBorg Wrote:  It is physically impossible to travel past, because the closed spacetime loop has divergent energy: see my work in viXra (Martila). But also the S.Hawking tries to show my result in the article "the chronology protection conjecture." Therefore, the Lucy is the myth only.

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This at least is entertaining fiction as opposed to whatever the fuck you wrote.

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27-11-2016, 04:25 PM
RE: Do you speak, what any religion is a lie?
All these same point threads only direct at some type of strong atheist arrogant anti theist... you're talking at loose straws borgy

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27-11-2016, 04:28 PM
RE: Do you speak, what any religion is a lie?
(27-11-2016 03:06 PM)Reltzik Wrote:  Can we FINALLY get a banhammer in here?

907 posts...9 liked posts. A waste of bandwidth that’s for sure.

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27-11-2016, 04:46 PM
RE: Do you speak, what any religion is a lie?
(27-11-2016 12:13 PM)theBorg Wrote:  Even the perfectly sane people can hope, what there is an afterlife. Correct?

No.

Life after death is a contradiction. Hoping for a contradiction is not sane. It is delusional.

The afterlife is having your cake after you've eaten it. For eternity.

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27-11-2016, 04:55 PM
RE: Do you speak, what any religion is a lie?
(27-11-2016 02:46 PM)theBorg Wrote:  
(27-11-2016 02:32 PM)Gloucester Wrote:  Any belief system that involves undetectable supernatural entities or unrepeatable, unprovable events should be considered, at best, with a very high degree of scepticism by a rational human,

To accept the above unquestioningly would not appear to indcate a high degree of rational intelligence.

That sone humans have some sort of psychological faculty or need for such a "prop" does appear to be possible. That does not make it real.

There is such notion as "hope". Even the perfectly sane people can hope, what there is an afterlife. Correct?

Nope. I have no desire to keep living after I'm dead. I didn't exist before I was born and I won't after I'm dead. It's wishful thinking and total stupidity to expect that the human animal will be the only animal to survive death. Death is natural and normal.

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27-11-2016, 06:02 PM
RE: Do you speak, what any religion is a lie?
(27-11-2016 12:13 PM)theBorg Wrote:  This is absurd: you are not the specialist in absolutely all religions.
Do not give the desired hell for everybody's desire!

The blind faith is the acceptance without a proof. There is no valid proof of atheism in Wikipedia, correct? Then the theism differs from atheism not in sanity of the people, but in their will to follow the chosen path in life. There is such notion as "hope". Even the perfectly sane people can hope, what there is an afterlife. Correct?

The proof of theism is made by me, the Martila, with guidance of the Holy Trinity.
The rejection of this proof by the people, including the theists, is due to their will to be blind. The blindness allows them any moment to "switch the army" for a day or two. "Father, forgive them! Because they do not know, what they are doing!" (Bible).

Sinner: "There is no god!" But what about the religion of vehement self-worship?

The point is in the definition of word "god". If it is the superior being, then we have the illusion of own super powers. The TV culture exploits this fantasy. The time travel in the film "Lucy" allows us to hope, what the sufficiently advanced human has traveled into past and has created the universe.

But it is against our nature, we are the dying slaves, we will always be the slaves. We are happy to be the slaves. We are slaves to each other, because we love each other. Therefore, we are not the True gods.

The True God is superior to humans in all aspects.

It is physically impossible to travel past, because the closed spacetime loop has divergent energy: see my work in viXra (Martila). But also the S.Hawking tries to show my result in the article "the chronology protection conjecture." Therefore, the Lucy is the myth only.

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27-11-2016, 06:11 PM
RE: Do you speak, what any religion is a lie?
(27-11-2016 03:05 PM)theBorg Wrote:  You said the key word, lady: ALMOST. The key word is ALMOST. Welcome to paradise, our beauty!

Your use of the word 'lady' is unacceptable to Me. You are not a member of My inner circle and in fact shall never be admitted to it under any circumstances, as I deem you untrustworthy. Further, you did not properly capitalize the word.

I am so sure that your "paradise" is a myth (probability of .999...) that I am simply not going to take it seriously.
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27-11-2016, 08:28 PM
RE: Do you speak, what any religion is a lie?
(27-11-2016 02:41 PM)Astreja Wrote:  
(27-11-2016 01:59 PM)theBorg Wrote:  The proof of theism is made by me, the Martila, with guidance of the Holy Trinity.

Your "proof" is rancid pig shit, and "the Holy Trinity" would make a great name for a trio of strippers.

Or one really good one named Trinity. Big Grin

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27-11-2016, 09:27 PM
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I'm down with the trio, m'self.
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