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03-10-2011, 04:26 AM
Do you support the idea of teaching both Creation and Evolution theory in schools?
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03-10-2011, 04:49 AM
RE: Do you support the idea of teaching both Creation and Evolution theory in schools?
I would say bad idea. One is based on conjecture without hard evidence to back up the conclusion, while the other is backed up with hard evidence and intensive research. It would be like teaching "Neutrons and Protons do not repel each other in the nucleus because GOD" versus "Neutrons and Protons do not repel each other in the nucleus due to the presence of gluons"

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03-10-2011, 05:53 AM
RE: Do you support the idea of teaching both Creation and Evolution theory in schools?
Science should remain in science classrooms. Evolution is taught in science classes and creation can be taught as myth in philosophy and history, along with all of the other creation myths.

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03-10-2011, 06:47 AM
RE: Do you support the idea of teaching both Creation and Evolution theory in schools?
Would you promote astrology and astronomy in the same classroom?

The only reason we even talk about this is the religious attack agenda. If not for that the idea would be absurd. We don't propose that David Icke be given equal time in the science classroom.
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03-10-2011, 09:06 AM
RE: Do you support the idea of teaching both Creation and Evolution theory in schools?
Yes. Every aspect of religion should be taught as an optional course in all schools. As mythology. Not as fact.

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03-10-2011, 10:59 AM
RE: Do you support the idea of teaching both Creation and Evolution theory in schools?
No as creation relies heavily on beliefs, circular logic and psudoscience.

Evolution is based on testable, observable evidence and has held up well to scutiny for over 100 years and is by far the best theory for how life came to be the form it is now.

Saying the bible proves life has always been in its current form is like saying the lord of the rings proves the existance of Frodo. Just because you have a book that says its true, doesn't mean its proof.
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03-10-2011, 11:56 AM
RE: Do you support the idea of teaching both Creation and Evolution theory in schools?
(03-10-2011 10:59 AM)FSM_scot Wrote:  Evolution is based on testable, observable evidence and has held up well to scutiny for over 100 years and is by far the best theory for how life came to be the form it is now.

Whether or not statement is true depends on what definition of evolution you are using. The word "evolution" has more than one meaning and a lot of confusion occurs if it is used without specifying what meaning is mean.

We observe gradual changes occurring in organisms so that different varieties can trace their ancestors to a single ancestor. One obvious example of this is the existence of different breeds of dog which are all descended from wolves. Everyone would agree that this kind of evolution is true and has been proven.

There is disagreement over what the starting point of this process was. When people speak of evolution they are often referring the the theory popularized by Charles Darwin that all forms of life arose from a single ancestor. Those who teach this are going beyond what we can observe. The Bible has a different explanation. It says that God created distinct kinds of life and we know from observation that these original kinds have the ability to develop into different forms.

Quote:Evolutionists assume that all life started from one or a few chemically evolved life forms with an extremely small gene pool. For evolutionists, enlargement of the gene pool by selection of random mutations is a slow, tedious process that burdens each type with a “genetic load” of harmful mutations and evolutionary leftovers. Creationists assume each created kind began with a large gene pool, designed to multiply and fill the earth with all its tremendous ecologic and geographic variety. (See Genesis chapter 1.)

Neither creationist nor evolutionist was there at the beginning to see how it was done, but at least the creationist mechanism works, and it’s consistent with what we observe. The evolutionist assumption doesn’t work, and it’s not consistent with what we presently know of genetics and reproduction. As a scientist, I prefer ideas that do work and do help to explain what we can observe, and that’s creation!

According to the creation concept, each kind starts with a large gene pool present in created, probably “average-looking,” parents. As descendants of these created kinds become isolated, each average-looking (“generalized”) type would tend to break up into a variety of more “specialized” descendants adapted to different environments. Thus, the created ancestors of dogs, for example, have produced such varieties in nature as wolves, coyotes, and jackals. Human beings, of course, have great diversity, too. As the Bible says, God made of “one blood” (or one gene pool) all the “tribes and tongues and nations” of the earth.

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One reason people reject creation as being unscientific is that they simply don't know what creationists believe and how much evidence there is in support of creation.

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03-10-2011, 03:37 PM (This post was last modified: 03-10-2011 03:48 PM by mysticjbyrd.)
RE: Do you support the idea of teaching both Creation and Evolution theory in schools?
(03-10-2011 09:06 AM)lucradis Wrote:  Yes. Every aspect of religion should be taught as an optional course in all schools. As mythology. Not as fact.

Why? That is an absurd waste of time.
Information and knowledge are growing at an exponential rate. You cannot expect children to keep up if you waste a sizable amount of their time on nonsense.

There is no such thing as religious education, as it is an oxymoron.
Education noun 1. the act or process of imparting or acquiring general knowledge, developing the powers of reasoning and judgment, and generally of preparing oneself or others intellectually for mature life.

Scripture does not provide any of the above for the vast majority. I believe the word you are looking for is,
Indoctrination noun the act of indoctrinating, or teaching or inculcating a doctrine, principle, or ideology, especially one with a specific point of view: religious indoctrination.

There is nothing to be learned from religion outside a history book, or philosophy book(subsection, fallacies).

PS: Anyone who thinks creationism should be taught in a science class is gullible brain washed idiot. And I am sorry, but there is just no nice way to put it.
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03-10-2011, 04:43 PM
RE: Do you support the idea of teaching both Creation and Evolution theory in schools?
We have religious education to learn about the deep dark depths of human stupidity. That is where creation belongs.
We have science to learn about the dizzying heights of human intellect. That is where evolution belongs.

Yes they should both be taught but not as equals. And creation should definitely not be allowed within a million miles of a science lesson as it isn't science. If the fundies want "balance" and to have both taught in science then they can start by teaching evolution in church, see how they like that balance.

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03-10-2011, 04:46 PM (This post was last modified: 03-10-2011 04:52 PM by mysticjbyrd.)
RE: Do you support the idea of teaching both Creation and Evolution theory in schools?
(03-10-2011 04:43 PM)Hughsie Wrote:  We have religious education to learn about the deep dark depths of human stupidity. That is where creation belongs.
We have science to learn about the dizzying heights of human intellect. That is where evolution belongs.

Yes they should both be taught but not as equals. And creation should definitely not be allowed within a million miles of a science lesson as it isn't science. If the fundies want "balance" and to have both taught in science then they can start by teaching evolution in church, see how they like that balance.

Again, why? I keep hearing it should be taught, but why? It sounds like you are just trying to compromise with terrorists.
Well if you do not destroy science education, we will....ahh...give you your own religion class. That is not even a compromise, that is giving these nuts exactly what they want.

There is not a single reason to ever teach religious nonsense in schools.
Maybe, a religion class in college....ok
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