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28-11-2011, 05:31 PM
RE: Do you support the idea of teaching both Creation and Evolution theory in schools?
(28-11-2011 05:05 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  As a Christian - no.

Science doesn't belong in a religion class, likewise, religion doesn't belong in a science class. Moreover, theologians shouldn't try to explain science, and scientists shouldn't explain theology.

When religion makes claims about the physical universe, it becomes fair game for science.

Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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28-11-2011, 06:21 PM (This post was last modified: 28-11-2011 06:24 PM by mysticjbyrd.)
RE: Do you support the idea of teaching both Creation and Evolution theory in schools?
(28-11-2011 05:05 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  As a Christian - no.

Science doesn't belong in a religion class, likewise, religion doesn't belong in a science class. Moreover, theologians shouldn't try to explain science, and scientists shouldn't explain theology.

You could argue history is actually a science now. So scientists are explaining theology from an historical and psychological point of view.

Do you think research in said areas should be banned to protect your beliefs? Are you afraid that someone will discover something that disproves your beliefs?
If so, you are no better than the people advocating for creationism to be taught in science class.
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28-11-2011, 06:27 PM
RE: Do you support the idea of teaching both Creation and Evolution theory in schools?
(28-11-2011 06:21 PM)mysticjbyrd Wrote:  
(28-11-2011 05:05 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  As a Christian - no.

Science doesn't belong in a religion class, likewise, religion doesn't belong in a science class. Moreover, theologians shouldn't try to explain science, and scientists shouldn't explain theology.

You could argue history is actually a science now. So scientists are explaining theology from an historically and psychologically.

Do you think research in said areas should be banned?

Of course not. The search of knowledge should never be banned.

And someone who is studying theology from the historical aspect doesn't make him a theologian. It makes him a historian.

Just because I study ancient masonry doesn't mean that I could be a mason. I mean, I could know HOW the houses were built, but that doesn't mean I could build it.

If you are going to specialize in theology - stay in theology. Same for science.

But, I think we are getting off the point.

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28-11-2011, 06:29 PM
RE: Do you support the idea of teaching both Creation and Evolution theory in schools?
Well, I was educated in a Lutheran school K-12 so I experienced both religion and science classes on a daily basis (separate classes, and the topics were never intermixed so as not to potentially confuse the students, so I'm down with that teaching strategy). I will say that I doubt there is anything stonger than a 12-year parochial education from the ages of 5-17 to turn a rational mind atheist. And I credit the daily requirement of memorizing Bible passages to my still keen memory decades later. They think I'm delusional, I think they're delusional. And it's all good because we both undoubtedly are.

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28-11-2011, 08:39 PM
RE: Do you support the idea of teaching both Creation and Evolution theory in schools?
History class - where we got taught about Thanksgiving (theology) and Paul Revere (nationalism - which is a theology of sorts) Tongue

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28-11-2011, 10:20 PM
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(28-11-2011 08:39 PM)houseofcantor Wrote:  History class - where we got taught about Thanksgiving (theology) and Paul Revere (nationalism - which is a theology of sorts) Tongue

The Lutheran school I was educated in taught Thanksgiving as nationalism.

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28-11-2011, 10:42 PM
RE: Do you support the idea of teaching both Creation and Evolution theory in schools?
Love your new avatar, GirlyMan!!! Smile

No. Creation theory/Religion should only be taught in church FULL STOP!!!
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28-11-2011, 10:46 PM
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(28-11-2011 10:42 PM)aurora2020 Wrote:  Love your new avatar, GirlyMan!!! Smile

No. Creation theory/Religion should only be taught in church FULL STOP!!!

The avvy is cool, but the entitlement has Marlyn Manson jamming in my head... can I sue for brain damage? Tongue

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29-11-2011, 07:03 PM (This post was last modified: 29-11-2011 07:21 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Do you support the idea of teaching both Creation and Evolution theory in schools?
(28-11-2011 10:42 PM)aurora2020 Wrote:  No. Creation theory/Religion should only be taught in church FULL STOP!!!

Nah, it just has to be done properly, like in my parochial school. They did a good job of keeping them separate. If you want to teach it in public schools you better do it in a Comparative Religion class and be sure to include all the major World religions in the discussion in an impartial way. The thought of including it in a Science class is just plain teatarded. It'd be like teaching numerology alongside Mathematics or astrology alongside Astronomy. ... Just fuckin' teatarded.

(28-11-2011 10:42 PM)aurora2020 Wrote:  Love your new avatar, GirlyMan!!! Smile

Yeah, GirlyBoy pointed out to me that he couldn't blow my old one up to see what the annotations were. It's not funny if you can't see the GirlyArnold annotations. So here they are:

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(28-11-2011 10:46 PM)houseofcantor Wrote:  The avvy is cool, but the entitlement has Marlyn Manson jamming in my head... can I sue for brain damage? Tongue

Didn't know the baby-eater had done a cover, thanks HoC, I checked out his cover and it was cool. For years I loved Depeche Mode's original version, but since I've become an old man, I like Cash's cover even better. Big Grin



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29-11-2011, 07:15 PM
RE: Do you support the idea of teaching both Creation and Evolution theory in schools?
(29-11-2011 07:03 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Didn't know the baby-eater had done a cover, thanks HoC, that was cool. For years I loved Depeche Mode's original version, but since I've become an old man, I like Cash's cover even better. Big Grin
Hey, I thought it was a Manson piece. Silly me. If Mr. Black rocks it, it's all good in the hood. Wink

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