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19-11-2012, 05:54 AM
RE: Does Porn Suck?
(19-11-2012 05:29 AM)Misanthropik Wrote:  
(19-11-2012 05:23 AM)Vera Wrote:  No, you just don't have the mental capacity to grasp that the Human Centipede is a deep, thought-provoking exploration of the human psyche.
Once again, you're dodging my arguments. That's very telling.

I suppose I'll address this irrelevance anyway; Aside from the Saw franchise, I've never seen any of the movies you've used to support your already-shaky arguments, sweetheart. It may very-well be as your sarcasm has described. Who knows? Either way, it has nothing to do with the argument at hand, which was directed at and centered around the Saw films and your claims about them.
Look, son, if you've got nothing better to do with your time than to "call people out" on stuff you, personally, do not agree with, I do.

I'm not the one who's been condescending from the start, saying that whatever I do not agree with is naive, looking for solace or a sign of mental inferiority.

I said it before and will say it again, everything in this 'argument' (and I don't think it qualifies as such) have been OPINIONS. How you feel about the Saw movies is not the truth. There is no such thing in this context. I'm perfectly happy with you thinking that they are a deep philosophical treatise on the human condition, but you get all bent out of shape that I myself do not see them that way (same goes for all 'arguments' we've had so far).

(As for the rest of my arguments, you haven't addressed any of them in any way, unless you call whining about how great the Saw franchise is and how stupid we, who do not agree with you, are, an argument? )

Have you ever wondered why you need everyone to agree with you?

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19-11-2012, 06:13 AM
RE: Does Porn Suck?
(19-11-2012 05:54 AM)Vera Wrote:  
(19-11-2012 05:29 AM)Misanthropik Wrote:  Once again, you're dodging my arguments. That's very telling.

I suppose I'll address this irrelevance anyway; Aside from the Saw franchise, I've never seen any of the movies you've used to support your already-shaky arguments, sweetheart. It may very-well be as your sarcasm has described. Who knows? Either way, it has nothing to do with the argument at hand, which was directed at and centered around the Saw films and your claims about them.
Look, son, if you've got nothing better to do with your time than to "call people out" on stuff you, personally, do not agree with, I do.

I'm not the one who's been condescending from the start, saying that whatever I do not agree with is naive, looking for solace or a sign of mental inferiority.

I said it before and will say it again, everything in this 'argument' (and I don't think it qualifies as such) have been OPINIONS. How you feel about the Saw movies is not the truth. There is no such thing in this context. I'm perfectly happy with you thinking that they are a deep philosophical treatise on the human condition, but you get all bent out of shape that I myself do not see them that way (same goes for all 'arguments' we've had so far).

(As for the rest of my arguments, you haven't addressed any of them in any way, unless you call whining about how great the Saw franchise is and how stupid we, who do not agree with you, are, an argument? )

Have you ever wondered why you need everyone to agree with you?

"Look, son, if you've got nothing better to do with your time than to "call people out" on stuff you, personally, do not agree with, I do."

Clearly. lol

"I'm not the one who's been condescending from the start, saying that whatever I do not agree with is naive, looking for solace or a sign of mental inferiority."

Shocking ....Go back...and read again.

"How you feel about the Saw movies is not the truth. There is no such thing in this context. I'm perfectly happy with you thinking that they are a deep philosophical treatise on the human condition, but you get all bent out of shape that I myself do not see them that way (same goes for all 'arguments' we've had so far)."

So the intentions of the film-makers, the observable plot, and the droves of like-minded fans - all things which completely contradict everything you just said - well we'll just toss them aside. Easier that way, I suppose. Rolleyes

I'll say one more time: that IS THE STORY. Yes, it IS the fucking truth, because that's what the films are centered around. That's the entire fucking point! It's as though you're saying "It's only your opinion that the electric toothbrush is for brushing teeth. I see it differently, because the vibrating mechanism makes a great sex toy. The toothbrush being intended to brush teeth is not the truth. It's just your opinion."

"As for the rest of my arguments, you haven't addressed any of them in any way..."

Oh my fucking god. Really?! So the multiple pages of exact quotes and precise refutations: WHAT THE FUCK WAS ALL THAT???

"Have you ever wondered why you need everyone to agree with you?"

I don't need everyone to agree with me. They need them to agree with me. I am omniscient and it has been written that all who do not agree with me will be sent to a place of eternal torment. Everyone knows that.

Silly question, really.

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19-11-2012, 06:22 AM
RE: Does Porn Suck?
That's your best argument? "Droves of people agree with me?" People used to think there were immortal dudes living on mount Olympus. Didn't make it true.
And we are not even talking about facts here, but about art (and I'm being generous with the term). Art is by definition subjective. The toothbrush metaphor or whatever the hell it was is completely meaningless.

And no, you haven't given any pertinent arguments in this particular discussion. Neither as to why people enjoy the pain of others, nor why the Saw movies are great You just gave your opinion. And tried to shove it down my throat.

I'm secure enough in myself and my opinions not to feel the urge to attack anyone who doesn't like the movies I like or even slightly disagrees with me. What about you?

As I said, there are none as blind.

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19-11-2012, 06:36 AM
RE: Does Porn Suck?
(19-11-2012 06:22 AM)Vera Wrote:  That's your best argument? "Droves of people agree with me?" People used to think there were immortal dudes living on mount Olympus. Didn't make it true.
And we are not even talking about facts here, but about art (and I'm being generous with the term). Art is by definition subjective. The toothbrush metaphor or whatever the hell it was is completely meaningless.

And no, you haven't given any pertinent arguments in this particular discussion. Neither as to why people enjoy the pain of others, nor why the Saw movies are great You just gave your opinion. And tried to shove it down my throat.

I'm secure enough in myself and my opinions not to feel the urge to attack anyone who doesn't like the movies I like or even slightly disagrees with me. What about you?

As I said, there are none as blind.
"That's your best argument? "Droves of people agree with me?" "

I like how you picked out the one example from the several that I gave. Well done.

"And we are not even talking about facts here, but about art (and I'm being generous with the term). Art is by definition subjective."

Artistic taste is subjective. How people respond to art is subjective. The intentions of the artist are not. They are as the artist intended. You are claiming that the art is something other than what the artist intended. You are incorrect. The artist intended his film to be X. You are claiming it to be Y. The plot points of a film are not up for debate: they are the film's plot points; played out to a certain degree, in a certain manner. The result is that the film is X. Not Y.

"And no, you haven't given any pertinent arguments in this particular discussion."

I'll simply respond using your own words, yet again:

"there are none as blind."




It seems I'd have better luck arguing with a brick wall. Odd how I never seem to have that problem with anyone else on this site...except you. This'll be the second (third? I can't remember) back-and-forth with you that I'll simply throw my hands up and walk away from. Adieu.

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19-11-2012, 06:49 AM
RE: Does Porn Suck?
And that, ladies and gents, is how people have discussions in kindergarten.

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19-11-2012, 07:07 AM
RE: Does Porn Suck?
You two are funny. Love is in the air... Big Grin

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19-11-2012, 07:19 AM
RE: Does Porn Suck?
(19-11-2012 07:07 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  You two are funny. Love is in the air... Big Grin
Yep yep, make up sex time Yes
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19-11-2012, 07:26 AM
RE: Does Porn Suck?
(19-11-2012 07:19 AM)morondog Wrote:  
(19-11-2012 07:07 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  You two are funny. Love is in the air... Big Grin
Yep yep, make up sex time Yes
That'd be akin to paedophilia, you sick fucks Censored

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19-11-2012, 07:35 AM
RE: Does Porn Suck?
(19-11-2012 07:26 AM)Vera Wrote:  
(19-11-2012 07:19 AM)morondog Wrote:  Yep yep, make up sex time Yes
That'd be akin to paedophilia, you sick fucks Censored
Your argument is invalid Tongue
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19-11-2012, 07:36 AM
RE: Does Porn Suck?
(19-11-2012 07:26 AM)Vera Wrote:  
(19-11-2012 07:19 AM)morondog Wrote:  Yep yep, make up sex time Yes
That'd be akin to paedophilia, you sick fucks Censored
The more you deny your mutual attraction, the worse it is going to be, and the more miserable you shall become. Just get on with it and over it.

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