RE: Does Porn Suck?
(21-11-2012 12:45 PM)Vera Wrote:
(21-11-2012 11:18 AM)Misanthropik Wrote: "You've sought out my posts to OTHER people in two different threads and started what I thought were normal discussions, but what quickly devolved into something else (not even sure what to call it)."
See, you've hinted at this a few times now. Quite frankly, I'm at a loss as to what you could mean. To my knowledge, this is the second relatively heated discussion I've had with you (certainly the most heated of either one), and on both occasions, I had been browsing through different threads just reading what's being said. That's what happens on a forum. Where exactly do you get this idea that I'm "seeking" you out just to pick a fight? Trust me, babe, you're not that great. You were pleasant enough when we first spoke, but nothing I'd actively go looking for. And even if I did want to seek you out, I'd go straight to my fucking inbox - where I left you.
As for the running theme of discussions turning into near shouting matches; quite frankly, I notice an extreme level of hypersensitivity on your part. Of course, you'd likely lay the blame on me just as I lay it on you, so that's a path I'm not even gonna bother going down.
"For god's sake, in the first thread you actually ASKED me to stop the discussion after your first reply. Did you really want to have the last word so badly?"
I stated that I personally wished for the discussion to be stopped; I did not ask you to cease speaking about it. And the only reason I stated such was because the post in which I said it delved into personally sensitive subject matter, which, after typing out the entire post, left me feeling a bit emotionally drained. You may go back to that thread and read the entire post, if you wish. Additionally, I came back later and picked the discussion up again only because I had had enough time to cool off. I rarely voice my wish for a discussion to end, but when I do, at the time, I whole-heartedly mean it. But, inevitably, I busy myself with other things, I cool off, and suddenly I find myself reinvigorated, so I may eventually return. It has nothing to do with "having the last word". It has to do with being a human being who's mental and emotional state fluctuates as time goes by. Just look at yourself. Repeatedly saying that you're "done with me", only to come crawling back later. If I were as assuming as you, I too could accuse YOU of wanting the last word. But, as this entire paragraph has said, I know that people fluctuate. Thus, you keep coming back. As do I.
"If you can't handle ANY difference of ideas"
I handle differing ideas every day, my dear. Not once have I attacked another individual simply because their opinions or ideas were different from mine. If and when I address a difference in someone's mindset or belief system, it is because I've seen some sort of structural flaw, and saught to point it out. That is what happened here in THIS thread, and still, you seem to think I've been attacking your personal opinions. But I've explained why that's not the case numerous times, and still, STILL you can't seem to grasp my point. In my stupidity, I thought for sure the analogy about the car would have cleared things up and shown you what the fuck I was trying to say. I was giving you credit; thinking that surely you'd be smart enough to catch it. But you completely missed the entire point of the analogy. You've missed every single attempt at reason on my part. Every single one. Even this paragraph; I'm sure you'll completely fail to grasp. You'll view it as nothing more than a personal attack; an attempt to berate you in order to puff myself up. I guarantee that's how you'll respond to it, because it's all you seem to see every time I put text to screen. Well good luck, babe. Take it however you wish.
"To prove that yours is bigger than mine? Well, seeing as I don't have one, it most certainly is."
This is another recurring theme that I've noticed with you, and it's part of the reason that I believe you to be so intellectually vapid. You seem to have absolutely no filter equipped to weed out fallacious arguments. Strawmen fucking abound with you. So much so that I've only bothered to point out ONE prior to this conversation. You just spout the fallacies out left and right, all the while missing the overall points of the arguments I make. When that happens, and when it happens with relentless severity, I become just a teeny-bit frustrated. Go figure.
"And don't flatter yourself (you do seem in need of some sort of validation, only, you go about in a very weird way), the only reason your childish attitude bothers me is because I hate mindless bickering and arguing as opposed to reasonable discussions."
Again, you're assuming that I'm trying to puff myself up somehow. This truly does show a level of insecurity on your part. This is made even more evident by your observable demeanor. Trying to quit the entire site altogether speaks to A LOT more than a simple aversion to occasional bickering. Do you know what I do when faced with bickering? I build a ladder and get the fuck over it. I don't upend my life on the forum because of it. Again, the way(s) in which you've reacted to this entire exchange says that you're taking this a lot harder than you want me to believe. That's not flattery - I can get off on much greater things than a debate with someone online. It's simple observation.
"And my reason for leaving the forum was that after this happened twice, I saw a pattern emerging and didn't much enjoy coming to a place where there was someone on the lookout for things to start another mindless, mud-slinging fight about."
I've already addressed the paranoid delusion that I'm somehow stalking you, so I'll ignore that here.
I've been on forums and various social medias where I didn't much care for certain individuals. Do you know what I do when that happens? I ignore them. I block them. I take whatever simple measures are required to, as I say, "get over it". You don't like what I have to say? That's perfectly fine. IGNORE ME like a big girl. Don't stomp your feet and crumble your account up in your hands and throw it in the trash.
"And the weirdest thing is that we have actually had normal conversations before that. What happened, forgot to take a pill or something?"
Yes, we have. Do prior exchanges mean that I shouldn't deviate from pleasentries in the future? No. I call bullshit if and when I see it. I don't care if it's you, or any other member of this forum with whom I've had pleasant conversations. If someone's acting stupid, I'm gonna call them on it. I would expect them to do the same with me.
"Oh, and I don't remember ever saying I was thick-skinned. Was this the purpose of the whole exercise? To see if I am? Happy now?"
You didn't. I was elaborating on the context of the word "thick" and how it applies or doesn't apply to you.
Anyway, I'm quite happy, yes. Still somewhat frustrated; still baffled, but overall, quite happy.
Edit: When exactly did I profess pride over having "forced you from the forums"? When did I even force you from the damn forums??? I thought you left the forum because of an aversion to childish bickering. Not because I got to you. Remember?
Sorry, seeing as I'm on the thick (which means stupid, not thick-skinned, but hey, you're not the sharpest tool in the shed anyway) side, I couldn't finish what you just spewed forth.
Whether or not I'll stay here I don't know, but I'm putting you on ignore from now on, so that I don't have to deal with your crap anymore.
As mentioned before, since you seem to have an overwhelming need to prove something to I don't know whom, possibly the forum (not that they care much), go ahead and keep flogging this corpse of a horse until your hands bleed.
Whatever you say, babe.
Through profound pain comes profound knowledge.
Ridi, Pagliaccio, sul tuo amore infranto! Ridi del duol, che t'avvelena il cor!