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21-10-2012, 04:52 AM (This post was last modified: 21-10-2012 05:02 AM by Vosur.)
RE: Does Porn Suck?
(20-10-2012 08:52 PM)Mr Woof Wrote:  You are ignoring the fact that offensive porn can impinge on those who may not want it, including minors and also fail to consider indirect ramifications that warrant addressing. The "personal rights" claim if often, in my view, simply a cop out.
I'll just chime in really quick. If you're not specifically searching for it, you won't find any kind of porn using Google or any other popular search engine. If you're using a search filter for minors, you won't even find it if you want to find it. Google is very good at that. If you want proof, here's proof:

Search for "animal porn" [filter for minors is on]: http://i.imgur.com/T70v4.jpg (Safe for Work)
Search for "animal porn" [filter for minors is off]: http://i.imgur.com/PEOqh.jpg (Not Safe for Work)

Go ahead, try it yourself.
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21-10-2012, 04:02 PM
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What Vosur said. I would also add that, if you have minor children, you might want to discuss the internet with them and pay attention to what they're doing on it. It's called parenting. I know people with small children and they use a computer in a family room in full view of the rest of the family. There are also filters and parental controls and things that can be used. Children's internet use should be supervised to an extent, because there are also sexual predators and kidnappers out there, and I think that's a lot more dangerous than accidentally stumbling upon nudity or something.

Otherwise, adults searching for "scat porn" aren't hurting anyone.
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21-10-2012, 06:04 PM
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My stance on pornography is the same on any issue of rights of men (yes, this mean women too). So long as minors are protected, consenting adults can do whatever they wish to themselves. If a girl is willing to do bukkake for 50 bucks, who I am to say no? Liberty means taking responsibility for your own actions and every adult with "normal" mental faculties should be responsible for their choices, actions, and inactions.

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21-10-2012, 07:57 PM
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My stance on porn is a little like my stance on marriage. Anything between two or more consenting adults is fine in my book. Who am I to tell adults what they can or can't do? Sure, there is a lot of porn that I am not into. I'm not into piss or scat porn, I get quite unsettled by bondage and S&M, If I'm watching a video and it seems like the girl isn't into it, I turn it off. But I realize that other people are into the sorts of things that weird me out, and if it's all between consenting adults, more power to them and you.

If there's one thing that I've learned from listening to Dan Savage on the Savage Lovecast, we've all got our little kinks and quirks and it's alright to explore them, as long as it is done in a safe manner. Except probably choking. That's a dangerous road to walk, and you will probably end up dead at some point.

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21-10-2012, 08:24 PM
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(20-10-2012 03:43 PM)amyb Wrote:  
Quote:Essentially you appear to be touching on human rights with some emphasis on scat porn and its degree of normalcy.
No, I was not touching on its "normalcy," I was only saying I see no reason to outlaw it. Yes, there are possible hygeinic issues, but if that bothers you, don't eat shit. In fact, if you like seeing people play with shit, scat porn would give you a safe outlet for your fetish. And again, the hygiene issues (bacteria/diseases in fecal matter) only concern the people who are playing with shit. No one else is affected. And if two people are both into scat and play with poop together, that's consensual behavior and I see no reason to meddle in it because I think poop is "icky."

Quote:Human rights are the basis of acceptable living and imply the 'wrong' attitudes of others. We do not live in a Utopia, far from it and sadly even small degrees of compromise seem highly elusive.
But who decides what is acceptable and "normal," especially when we're talking about small groups of sexual deviants that do not seem to be hurting anyone else at all?

I think oral sex is gross and unhygienic. If I became leader of a country, would that give me the right to outlaw oral sex for everyone? Because that's what you're doing: arbitrarily deciding what should be legal based on your own personal tastes. You seem to be wanting to get rid o sexually deviant porn for no good reason, other than that you personally don't want to see it.

Also, you seem to be placing moral values on normalcy and deviance, which only describe the prevalence of a thing, not whether it's good or bad or useful or harmful.

In linking scat porn with kiddie and snuff, I have unjustifiably created an unfair correllation as the latter is not blatantly concerned with people incapable of consent, nor is it concerned with fantasising over inflicting torure or slowly killing people.
Some people drink their own urine for medicinal purposes and possibly the consumption of faeces, particularly from vegetarians,would be heaslthier than a Big Mac.........One prime poo in a sesame bun please!
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21-10-2012, 08:27 PM
RE: Does Porn Suck?
(21-10-2012 06:04 PM)Dark Light Wrote:  My stance on pornography is the same on any issue of rights of men (yes, this mean women too). So long as minors are protected, consenting adults can do whatever they wish to themselves. If a girl is willing to do bukkake for 50 bucks, who I am to say no? Liberty means taking responsibility for your own actions and every adult with "normal" mental faculties should be responsible for their choices, actions, and inactions.

Your refernce to 'normal mental faculties' coulsd perhaps be elaborated upon.

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21-10-2012, 08:37 PM
RE: Does Porn Suck?
(21-10-2012 04:52 AM)Vosur Wrote:  
(20-10-2012 08:52 PM)Mr Woof Wrote:  You are ignoring the fact that offensive porn can impinge on those who may not want it, including minors and also fail to consider indirect ramifications that warrant addressing. The "personal rights" claim if often, in my view, simply a cop out.
I'll just chime in really quick. If you're not specifically searching for it, you won't find any kind of porn using Google or any other popular search engine. If you're using a search filter for minors, you won't even find it if you want to find it. Google is very good at that. If you want proof, here's proof:

Search for "animal porn" [filter for minors is on]: http://i.imgur.com/T70v4.jpg (Safe for Work)
Search for "animal porn" [filter for minors is off]: http://i.imgur.com/PEOqh.jpg (Not Safe for Work)

Go ahead, try it yourself.

How many people worry about filters?
Perhaps the technology should be made more child proof with the onus more on the adult participants.

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21-10-2012, 08:41 PM
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(21-10-2012 08:37 PM)Mr Woof Wrote:  How many people worry about filters?
Perhaps the technology should be made more child proof with the onus more on the adult participants.
The filter is activated by default. Again, if anyone sees porn on the Internet, it's because he wanted to see it and searched for it intentionally. No excuses.
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21-10-2012, 08:48 PM
RE: Does Porn Suck?
(21-10-2012 08:41 PM)Vosur Wrote:  
(21-10-2012 08:37 PM)Mr Woof Wrote:  How many people worry about filters?
Perhaps the technology should be made more child proof with the onus more on the adult participants.
The filter is activated by default. Again, if anyone sees porn on the Internet, it's because he wanted to see it and searched for it intentionally. No excuses.

Well you must be right. My wife says so, and she drives a Beamer!

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21-10-2012, 08:58 PM
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(21-10-2012 08:48 PM)Mr Woof Wrote:  Well you must be right. My wife says so, and she drives a Beamer!

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