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10-04-2012, 08:52 PM
RE: Does Porn Suck?
(22-03-2012 05:35 PM)Mr Woof Wrote:  Now that I've got your attention lets look at things seriously.

Pornography of course means different things to different people and varies immensely in scope and intensity, or if you prefer depravity.

I believe that at least some porn is quite evil; some pornbrokers will say this is not porn at all and play the tired old semantics game.

I think many would join me in condenming at least some of the more virulent forms of pornography such as kiddie porn, blatant degradation of women, simulated snuff movies, and scat. Others will say that our rights against censorship is more important.

Porn really took off in the early 70s with the likes of Annie Sprinkle, a preferred lesbian who still managed over 3000 men,
and John Holmes who died of A.I.D.s
At 58 Annie Annie is soon to remarry her lesbian partner again, after three divorces and is pushing something rather occult new age system called sexeco, a type of feminist porn that liberates women in keeping with the moon , ocean, and other pagan support systems. Needless to say she is very rich. Holmes died 20 years ago and his ex wife is now on the Amazon book bandwagon.

I would argue that the worst aspects of porn, as indicated should be banned, even at the risk of pushing it underground, where it at least becomes a punishable crime.
No one argues for the legalization of child pornography and there are other areas that realy push the limits, such as the brutalization of women. It is hard to understand how men who like to watch such would not prefer the real thing if they could get it. As for snuff and scat, one does not need to go into details.

The billion dollar porn industry is but one example of capitalist exploitation whererby grossly weird and potentially dangerous human fantasies are teased ,then exploted in the name of human freedom and self gratification with the taxes there from allegedly assisting the undeclasses. I am aware of the problems associated with censorship, but in some areas the polarised position of open slather, no holds barred consumerism ,appears as equally, if not more, dangerous.
Wow. Hate porn much? Lots of weasel words here.

While you may think a "virulent" form of pornography such as kiddie porn is evil, it's beneficial to us if simulated. I'm not arguing that actual kids should get naked, but it could be useful if the kids are animated or computer simulated. There really are people who want to see (and probably have sex with) children, and porn can fulfill their appetite without any actual children getting hurt in the process. Otherwise, you're arguing that they stay completely abstinent... and when has that ever worked?

I would make the same argument about simulated snuff films. Would you rather that these people unfortunate to have such proclivities act them out instead? It's a good thing for them to have a "safe" outlet for such fantasies that you and I would see as "sick".

And then you attack the porn industry. Its origin in the 70's is simply unimportant (genetic fallacy) and if we remove the weasel words from your last paragraph (exploitation, self-gratification, slather) then you're basically saying that the "porn industry" (where apparently every porn producer pools his or her money?) gets rich by selling these forms of porn that you object to (while mostly making money from selling the common types of porn that you don't openly object to) and say that while you respect free speech you think that the danger from this porn is more important than free speech. We don't have to guess at the dangers of porn --- it has been investigated twice , the first time finding insufficient evidence for the dangers posed by pornography, the second time finding that it had many dangers (although there are good reasons why this evidence isn't compelling).

Of course, as a single man, I enjoy porn very much. I'm biased and I know it. I could be convinced by a sound argument against it, but this didn't appear to be one. If someone has a link to a study that actually demonstrates the danger in porn, please share it (or a link to a study that demonstrates that porn is not dangerous).

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Does Porn Suck? - Mr Woof - 22-03-2012, 05:35 PM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - ClydeLee - 22-03-2012, 05:41 PM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - GirlyMan - 22-03-2012, 06:58 PM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - Mr Woof - 23-03-2012, 03:54 PM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - nach_in - 22-03-2012, 07:14 PM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - houseofcantor - 22-03-2012, 07:44 PM
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RE: Does Porn Suck? - mysticjbyrd - 22-03-2012, 08:54 PM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - BlahBlokesBraBroke - 22-03-2012, 09:31 PM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - mysticjbyrd - 22-03-2012, 09:58 PM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - Mr Woof - 22-03-2012, 10:53 PM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - mysticjbyrd - 22-03-2012, 11:20 PM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - Thomas - 23-03-2012, 05:18 AM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - GirlyMan - 23-03-2012, 03:59 PM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - Filox - 23-03-2012, 05:22 AM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - dave - 23-03-2012, 11:14 AM
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RE: Does Porn Suck? - kineo - 23-03-2012, 04:21 PM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - bemore - 26-03-2012, 03:23 AM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - PeterKA - 28-03-2012, 09:26 AM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - Unbeliever - 28-03-2012, 10:01 AM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - morondog - 28-03-2012, 12:27 PM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - Unbeliever - 28-03-2012, 12:35 PM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - morondog - 28-03-2012, 12:54 PM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - Unbeliever - 28-03-2012, 01:03 PM
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RE: Does Porn Suck? - Mr Woof - 28-03-2012, 05:52 PM
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RE: Does Porn Suck? - Mr Woof - 09-04-2012, 09:42 PM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - GirlyMan - 09-04-2012, 09:59 PM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - Mr Woof - 10-04-2012, 01:50 AM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - GirlyMan - 10-04-2012, 10:40 AM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - Starcrash - 10-04-2012 08:52 PM
RE: Does Porn Suck? - Mr Woof - 11-04-2012, 05:12 PM
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RE: Does Porn Suck? - Mr Woof - 20-10-2012, 02:01 PM
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RE: Does Porn Suck? - Mr Woof - 20-10-2012, 08:12 PM
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RE: Does Porn Suck? - Mr Woof - 21-10-2012, 08:37 PM
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RE: Does Porn Suck? - Mr Woof - 21-10-2012, 08:48 PM
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