Does atheism oppose the world religions?
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03-01-2018, 04:09 AM
RE: Does atheism oppose the world religions?
(02-01-2018 02:48 AM)thermodynamics Wrote:  Is it necessary to debate between atheism and a religion?

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03-01-2018, 04:10 AM
RE: Does atheism oppose the world religions?
(03-01-2018 02:51 AM)thermodynamics Wrote:  
(02-01-2018 06:33 AM)unfogged Wrote:  Laugh out load

No.

Atheism is not a procedure and you can't remove existence from something that doesn't exist and when something doesn't exist it doesn't have properties.

It appears to be very difficult for some theists to accept that atheists don't see any need to have a central focus of worship. It also appears impossible for many to grasp that atheism is just not accepting the claims of existence for a god and not a different form of religion.
You are talking about the agency of Verity, which decides over the validity of a religions.

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03-01-2018, 04:31 AM
RE: Does atheism oppose the world religions?
(03-01-2018 02:51 AM)thermodynamics Wrote:  
(02-01-2018 06:33 AM)unfogged Wrote:  Laugh out load

No.

Atheism is not a procedure and you can't remove existence from something that doesn't exist and when something doesn't exist it doesn't have properties.

It appears to be very difficult for some theists to accept that atheists don't see any need to have a central focus of worship. It also appears impossible for many to grasp that atheism is just not accepting the claims of existence for a god and not a different form of religion.
You are talking about the agency of Verity, which decides over the validity of a religions. In Atheism, there is no such thing. Then, being atheists, one can hear that the theists are saying about their God, and use it as definition of this God. Then, the atheism removes one single feature of this God. And that imprint becomes left in atheist mind: Nonexisting Loving God. Atheist has thought about the God: "God does not exist", which is not yet scientifically validated. Why then, to oppose the world religions?

I observe that English is not your first language, but your statements lack any cogent meaning.
Would you care to try again in your language? Consider

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03-01-2018, 05:48 AM (This post was last modified: 03-01-2018 05:52 AM by TheInquisition.)
RE: Does atheism oppose the world religions?
(03-01-2018 04:31 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 02:51 AM)thermodynamics Wrote:  You are talking about the agency of Verity, which decides over the validity of a religions. In Atheism, there is no such thing. Then, being atheists, one can hear that the theists are saying about their God, and use it as definition of this God. Then, the atheism removes one single feature of this God. And that imprint becomes left in atheist mind: Nonexisting Loving God. Atheist has thought about the God: "God does not exist", which is not yet scientifically validated. Why then, to oppose the world religions?

I observe that English is not your first language, but your statements lack any cogent meaning.
Would you care to try again in your language? Consider

This one sounds like TheBorg, I wonder if we'll be regaled with stories of CERN opening a portal to hell?

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03-01-2018, 06:12 AM
RE: Does atheism oppose the world religions?
(03-01-2018 02:51 AM)thermodynamics Wrote:  You are talking about the agency of Verity, which decides over the validity of a religions.

The only agency deciding the validity of religions is the individual which is one of the main problems.

Quote:In Atheism, there is no such thing. Then, being atheists, one can hear that the theists are saying about their God, and use it as definition of this God.

Except that there is no single definition. It sometimes appears that every believer has their own definition of their god.

Quote:Then, the atheism removes one single feature of this God. And that imprint becomes left in atheist mind: Nonexisting Loving God.

That is complete garbage. Atheists don't believe in a non-existing loving god. The whole god concept is worthless and is discarded as the useless waste of time that it is.

Quote:Atheist has thought about the God: "God does not exist", which is not yet scientifically validated.

Atheism is not the claim "god does not exist", it is the statement "you have not provided evidence for your god claim". There is no need to scientifically validate the non-existence of gods because that isn't how it works. If you claim that a god exists and you want anybody else to believe it then you need to provide the evidence supporting that claim. After thousands of years of trying the theists have provided nothing of substance.

Quote:Why then, to oppose the world religions?

Because they impede social and scientific progress, drain resources from people that could go to better uses, and cause unnecessary misery. Religion is a pernicious virus that we would be much better off without.

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03-01-2018, 04:39 PM
RE: Does atheism oppose the world religions?
(03-01-2018 02:51 AM)thermodynamics Wrote:  Then, the atheism removes one single feature of this God.

No, if something does not exist then it has no features at all. It's like wondering about the political views of corpse.

Quote:Atheist has thought about the God: "God does not exist",

You are confusing atheism with anti-theism. "I do not believe in God." is not the same as "I believe that God is not."

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03-01-2018, 05:21 PM
RE: Does atheism oppose the world religions?
(03-01-2018 02:51 AM)thermodynamics Wrote:  You are talking about the agency of Verity, which decides over the validity of a religions. In Atheism, there is no such thing. Then, being atheists, one can hear that the theists are saying about their God, and use it as definition of this God. Then, the atheism removes one single feature of this God. And that imprint becomes left in atheist mind: Nonexisting Loving God. Atheist has thought about the God: "God does not exist", which is not yet scientifically validated. Why then, to oppose the world religions?

WTF are you even talking about.
What the hell is the agency of Verity ? Define it.
You're TOTALLY wrong. NO atheist has ANY "imprint" about any god.
You're making up this shit.

Science WILL NEVER have anything to say about any god. There is no way to subject the concept to science, (which I see you know nothing about).
The religions of the world are their own worst enemies. There is no evidence for ANY god, loving or otherwise.

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03-01-2018, 05:23 PM
RE: Does atheism oppose the world religions?
I think atheists mostly oppose theists who try to manipulate others into blindly believing things.

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03-01-2018, 05:28 PM
RE: Does atheism oppose the world religions?
(03-01-2018 05:23 PM)kim Wrote:  I think atheists mostly oppose theists who try to manipulate others into blindly believing things.

And those who would impose their arbitrary, archaic, absolutist absurdities on anyone.

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03-01-2018, 05:36 PM (This post was last modified: 03-01-2018 05:46 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Does atheism oppose the world religions?
Atheism abhors ignorance.

(03-01-2018 04:09 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  
(02-01-2018 02:48 AM)thermodynamics Wrote:  Is it necessary to debate between atheism and a religion?

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