Does my reality exists regardless of how I perceive it?
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18-01-2016, 01:31 PM
RE: Does my reality exists regardless of how I perceive it?
(18-01-2016 01:23 PM)Agnostic Shane Wrote:  
(18-01-2016 01:18 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Why should I stipulate I exist? It's not at all clear to me.
Are you saying you are not sure if you exist?

Yes. At least not in the way I think I do.

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18-01-2016, 01:36 PM
RE: Does my reality exists regardless of how I perceive it?
(18-01-2016 01:31 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(18-01-2016 01:23 PM)Agnostic Shane Wrote:  Are you saying you are not sure if you exist?

Yes. At least not in the way I think I do.
So you admit you do exist in a certain way.
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18-01-2016, 01:36 PM
RE: Does my reality exists regardless of how I perceive it?
(18-01-2016 01:36 PM)Agnostic Shane Wrote:  
(18-01-2016 01:31 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Yes. At least not in the way I think I do.
So you admit you do exist in a certain way.
Nope. Maybe as the figment of an imagination, kinda like you.

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18-01-2016, 01:42 PM
RE: Does my reality exists regardless of how I perceive it?
(18-01-2016 01:36 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(18-01-2016 01:36 PM)Agnostic Shane Wrote:  So you admit you do exist in a certain way.
Nope. Maybe as the figment of an imagination, kinda like you.
You are unsure if you exist?
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18-01-2016, 01:44 PM
RE: Does my reality exists regardless of how I perceive it?
(18-01-2016 01:42 PM)Agnostic Shane Wrote:  
(18-01-2016 01:36 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Nope. Maybe as the figment of an imagination, kinda like you.
You are unsure if you exist?

Yes. You wanna call me the embodiment of a paradox have at it.

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18-01-2016, 02:23 PM
RE: Does my reality exists regardless of how I perceive it?
(18-01-2016 01:00 PM)Agnostic Shane Wrote:  
(18-01-2016 12:47 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Prove it. .... bitch. Many have tried. All have failed.
Ok.
Are you thinking right now?
If yes then thoughts are real.
If no then thoughts are not real.

Post your answer here.

If anyone can properly dispute this logic it means I have failed & my statement cannot be considered a fact.

If it is undisputed then you are forced to call it a fact by the very definition of a fact.

fact: undisputed information

Only by your definition of 'fact'.

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18-01-2016, 02:28 PM
RE: Does my reality exists regardless of how I perceive it?
This guy still has yet to hit his hand with a hammer. This must mean he thinks he is more than thoughts. The pain cannot be "thought" away.

What a BS artist.

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18-01-2016, 02:42 PM
RE: Does my reality exists regardless of how I perceive it?
(18-01-2016 10:25 AM)DerFish Wrote:  
(18-01-2016 10:19 AM)Chas Wrote:  I've read that at least seven times and Pirsig is talking about quality, not qualia.

Isn't that the plural if quality?

Laugh out load

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18-01-2016, 02:55 PM
RE: Does my reality exists regardless of how I perceive it?
(18-01-2016 02:23 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(18-01-2016 01:00 PM)Agnostic Shane Wrote:  Ok.
Are you thinking right now?
If yes then thoughts are real.
If no then thoughts are not real.

Post your answer here.

If anyone can properly dispute this logic it means I have failed & my statement cannot be considered a fact.

If it is undisputed then you are forced to call it a fact by the very definition of a fact.

fact: undisputed information

Only by your definition of 'fact'.
https://www.google.com/search?q=google&i...fact+means
fact
fakt/
noun
noun: fact; plural noun: facts
a thing that is indisputably the case.

It's the dictionary meaning.
Google also.
It's unedited.
When disseminating information always ensure that the recipient carries the same understanding as you do.

If I want to tell you that:
The fruit is red.
but in your language the word fruit is pronounced seed then I have to say:
This seed is red.
or ask you to learn my language

In this case my language is English as defined by the English dictionary.
the concept I am trying to portray is:
"an indisputable piece of information"
the word I am using to convey that meaning is
"fact"

Do you wish to speak about a "fact" as described above?

If not then we can always start a new topic after concluding this one.
The translation of the topic of discussion lies solely with the person making the claim.

You cannot change the topic simply because you want it to mean something else.
So which is it?
Do you accept the dictionary meaning of the word fact?
or
Would you like to start a new topic which uses a different meaning of the word?
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18-01-2016, 03:03 PM
RE: Does my reality exists regardless of how I perceive it?
Is this all about "I think, therefor I am" or are you saying: "I think, therefor everything is".

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