Does wide access to pornography reduce sexual aggressiveness in a society?
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21-08-2012, 01:26 PM
RE: Does wide access to pornography reduce sexual aggressiveness in a society?
I don't really think you train your body and brain to release fast.
Everyone uses pornography in different ways, some for the quicky, some because they like to watch the act, some play around with timing, some use it to get ideas, some actually use it for educational purposes but i find that last one just funny because that stuff is not educating etc etc...
So, no, your theory isn't working that way, I think.

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05-10-2012, 01:51 AM
RE: Does wide access to pornography reduce sexual aggressiveness in a society?
Note, lazy replies to the thread are not appreciated.

The majority of replies are "I don't know." Okay ... Any possible links to Pavlovian studies on pornography? What is the prevailing trend - more desensitized, or more "aggressive" individuals?

As for the latest comment on psychological or physical conditioning, I think you know that this is directed towards people who consume pornography for sexual release - not some biology or psychology teacher, or what have you.
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05-10-2012, 03:27 AM (This post was last modified: 05-10-2012 04:47 AM by depat.)
RE: Does wide access to pornography reduce sexual aggressiveness in a society?
My Human Sexuality courses and Gender Study courses claimed direct coorelations between rapists and porn, and pedophils and porn. Large amounts of porn are discovered in the possision of most rapists and pedophiles, more than the average porn user. More men also ascribe to porn than women.

Also, feminist theory (oh shit, I said feminist) say the porn object (male or female) is exactly that, objectified--reduced to something less than human, that is, body parts meant to serve. Maybe, just maybe porn serves to direct the viewer into the realm of fantasy so much as to render the object a toy.
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05-10-2012, 05:19 AM
RE: Does wide access to pornography reduce sexual aggressiveness in a society?
Sorry, I didn't answer the question.

I just don't see how wide spread access to porn can reduce sexual agression. I do not believe most people, because they arn't getting any, resort to sexual agression. People have been taking care of sexual tension forever with just a hand or two and or maybe not with fantasy.

I do see how it can provide avenues for promoting agression. Note, I didn't say sexual agression. See above thread.
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05-10-2012, 06:30 AM
RE: Does wide access to pornography reduce sexual aggressiveness in a society?
okay .. all I did was read the title of the post....



I'll just say this.... when it comes to porn.... if i'm not the one doing the fucking.. I dont' give a shit....

..... any questions?

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05-10-2012, 09:55 AM
RE: Does wide access to pornography reduce sexual aggressiveness in a society?
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There has been evidence to suggest that states with higher porn activity see a frequent drop in rape rates, but that could just be coincidence.

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05-10-2012, 01:26 PM
RE: Does wide access to pornography reduce sexual aggressiveness in a society?
Even if there is a correlation, I still think a lot of people are confusing that with causation. If we're talking about rape, I still also think that people rape for reasons besides "not getting any." Even if a rapist is looking at porn, I'm not sure that counts as too much different than the same rapist having sexual fantasies in his head.

In fact, I think if you're going to talk about sexual aggression and porn, you should really find a way to figure in what's in the person's head the rest of the time, when porn is not available. It's not like people don't think about sexual things when porn is not available. While it could be interesting to study people's porn collections, I still think their sex fantasies seem more valuable (and may not have the same content).

I think a bigger problem is the way our society treats sex, and not entirely the fault of the porn industry.
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05-10-2012, 04:02 PM (This post was last modified: 05-10-2012 04:07 PM by kim.)
RE: Does wide access to pornography reduce sexual aggressiveness in a society?
Porn is fantasy, most often a sexually centered fantasy. Sexual porn gets a bad reputation and I think that "bad rep" can further confuse very different issues. Generally, sex is about losing control, mentally and physically... at least that's what I'm shooting for. Wink

Rape is most often a violent crime and has very little to do with sex. Rape is about gaining and/or imposing control, mentally and physically. Most often, rape involves mental manipulation, fear, and physical violence. During rape, sex is simply a tool - it might as well be a gun or a hammer - to gain control. I suppose the confusion comes about when physical genitalia is involved. However, sex and rape are very different things.

Confusion might be furthered by fantasy itself ... especially fantasy contained in porn. After all, people often fantasize about being in control or even being controlled... there are "rape fantasies". As well, there is a whole sexual romper room of S & M highly involved with control - it walks an interestingly fine line between sex, fantasy, and control.

All things associated with fantasy may very well push the envelope of how we view ourselves and also our self control. Continually blurring lines and confusing issues doesn't help to gain ground with self awareness if one has no self awareness in the first place.

Though fantasy contained in porn might play some part in what goes on in a person's mind during sex, I have no idea if porn fantasy has anything to do with what is going on in a rapist's mind while trying to attain control. I doubt it very much - it would seem there would be other things going on there. It is possible, people who oppose porn are confused about the differences between sex and violent crime.

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05-10-2012, 04:19 PM
RE: Does wide access to pornography reduce sexual aggressiveness in a society?
(05-10-2012 04:02 PM)kim Wrote:  It is possible, people who oppose porn are confused about the differences between sex and violent crime.

Exactly my thoughts on the matter.

I really don't understand why a lot of people seem to think rape is about not getting any sex. Not all rapists are poor and ugly or socially inept. I'm sure a guy like Ted Bundy wouldn't have had trouble getting sex, yet he still raped and killed women. Clearly, something else is going on here besides just looking for sexual release. The same goes for a number of high profile cases.

I understand there are problems with the porn industry and it's not perfect, but I think people blame it a lot more than they should for things like violent crime and things like divorce rates and so on. If "average" porn use is leading you toward divorce, I imagine the real problem is something like a lack of communication about sexuality, not actually a problem with porn.

But basically what kim said. I think rape is just another form of violent crime, where sexual acts are used to control/dominate/humiliate the victim instead of guns or baseball bats or something. I find it disturbing that people equate rape and sex, actually.
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06-10-2012, 05:51 AM
RE: Does wide access to pornography reduce sexual aggressiveness in a society?
(05-10-2012 04:19 PM)amyb Wrote:  But basically what kim said. I think rape is just another form of violent crime, where sexual acts are used to control/dominate/humiliate the victim instead of guns or baseball bats or something. I find it disturbing that people equate rape and sex, actually.

Disturbing? Yes. But the facts show that states with high pornography traffic see a decrease in rape. It may be a disturbing fact, but it is still a fact.

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