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14-03-2012, 08:05 PM
Doing the right thing
Is it 'moral' to do the right thing for the wrong reason?
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14-03-2012, 08:50 PM
RE: Doing the right thing
It depends wholly on the circumstances of the case.
There is no way to say yes or no.
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14-03-2012, 08:55 PM
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(14-03-2012 08:05 PM)jimmygun Wrote:  Is it 'moral' to do the right thing for the wrong reason?

You just do the right thing, ain't no "morality" to it.

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15-03-2012, 05:03 AM
RE: Doing the right thing
(14-03-2012 08:05 PM)jimmygun Wrote:  Is it 'moral' to do the right thing for the wrong reason?

Your question implies that there are objective rights and wrongs.
In my experience, one person's right is another person's wrong.

Can you give an example?

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15-03-2012, 05:14 AM
RE: Doing the right thing
Right in what sense, towards what goal?
Whose morality belief are we comparing this against?

If you are talking about compromising your own personal values, then I would say they are a guideline only and you asking this question suggests that you need to apply some deep rational thinking to sort out your dilemma.
If you are worried about others judging your actions as being immoral then you would need to find out what their personal values are (i.e. their beliefs on what is moral or immoral).

We don't judge the actions of animals as being moral or immoral, what makes us humans any different?
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15-03-2012, 05:48 AM
RE: Doing the right thing
I simply ask questions about what is going through my mind. I am not worried in any sense but being a skeptic, I like to question my own motives specifically and in others in general. I don't have a 'dilemma'.
Now for an example...Let's say you meet a girl or guy and they have a rotten little kid. If you put up with the kid and do the right thing for him/her, but are doing it to curry favour of the parent is that acceptable behaviour?
(15-03-2012 05:14 AM)Stevil Wrote:  Right in what sense, towards what goal?
Whose morality belief are we comparing this against?

If you are talking about compromising your own personal values, then I would say they are a guideline only and you asking this question suggests that you need to apply some deep rational thinking to sort out your dilemma.
If you are worried about others judging your actions as being immoral then you would need to find out what their personal values are (i.e. their beliefs on what is moral or immoral).

We don't judge the actions of animals as being moral or immoral, what makes us humans any different?
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15-03-2012, 08:58 AM
RE: Doing the right thing
I honestly can't see too many problems.

The right thing is the right thing, regardless why you're doing it.

You might volunteer at the soup kitchen because gosh darn it, someone needs to feed those beautiful homeless souls.
Or you might volunteer there because hey, that other hot chick with the nice rack works there and hey, just maybe she'll see that you're a great guy, and possibly that's all the opening you need to convince her to let you bounce them off your face.

Unless you go around telling people that's why, no-one is going to know what your motives are.
At the end of the day, the soup kitchen still gets an extra worker, the homeless still get fed.


Is that what you mean?
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15-03-2012, 09:00 AM
RE: Doing the right thing
(14-03-2012 08:05 PM)jimmygun Wrote:  Is it 'moral' to do the right thing for the wrong reason?

What are morals?

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15-03-2012, 09:07 AM
RE: Doing the right thing
(15-03-2012 09:00 AM)Logica Humano Wrote:  
(14-03-2012 08:05 PM)jimmygun Wrote:  Is it 'moral' to do the right thing for the wrong reason?

What are morals?

Far as I can tell... something we each have, something we each act upon and of course... something that no one can agree about defining or understanding where they come from depending on beliefs and values.
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15-03-2012, 11:20 AM
RE: Doing the right thing
(15-03-2012 09:07 AM)Logisch Wrote:  
(15-03-2012 09:00 AM)Logica Humano Wrote:  
(14-03-2012 08:05 PM)jimmygun Wrote:  Is it 'moral' to do the right thing for the wrong reason?

What are morals?

Far as I can tell... something we each have, something we each act upon and of course... something that no one can agree about defining or understanding where they come from depending on beliefs and values.

How can something be, generally, immoral? I thought that was what an ethic was?

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