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07-12-2016, 10:22 PM
RE: Donald Trump Time Magazine Person Of The Year
(07-12-2016 05:04 PM)The Organic Chemist Wrote:  
(07-12-2016 02:52 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  http://content.time.com/time/magazine/ar...39,00.html
Bribing or threatening companies to stay, is not "convincing".
The only thing they can do about that is re=write the entire American tax code, and they (no party) has even begun. Too bad. Not gonna happen in 4 years.
Trump himself has a company in China that's not coming here.
If our military had any way to "crush ISIS" they would have done so.
You live in a fantasy land.
They have to REPLACE the ACA with *something*. They have no clue what that will be. Ryan said himself he doesn't know what with last weekend. If you DID have any clue what you are talking about, you would know the best minds in the US have been trying to figure that out for decades. YOU have nothing to replace it with.

Trump LOST the national popular vote.
He must actually do the stuff he says he will do.
That's not likely.
He made the same sorts of glorified promises many times to all the contractors and civil governments he left holding the bag before. They learned the hard way.
The problem this time, is you're gullible enough and stupid enough to buy his snake-oil. You will learn the hard way too.

Let's not forget that his "saving" of jobs at Carrier in Indiana only resulted in way more tax breaks for the company (which hurts the taxpayer) and actually fewer jobs because Carrier is only going to automate things. Their CEO just said so on Mad Money. Trump saved no jobs and is costing Indiana tax dollars. Pence at least had their tax breaks yanked when they said they were going to move. The Donald then riggs it so they get more tax breaks and still cut most of the jobs. How is this making America great?

Look at Texas. The reason their schools are so crappy is that they have no state budget to support them, and the reason for that is they give huge tax breaks to lure companies who then pay nothing and use all the services.

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07-12-2016, 11:34 PM
RE: Donald Trump Time Magazine Person Of The Year
(07-12-2016 11:09 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(07-12-2016 11:03 AM)Dom Wrote:  So do you like him because he wants to establish a police and military autocracy?

Trump does not have absolute power.

Republicans however, do. And the people gave it to them.

No they don't. They must follow the Constitution and the laws of the land.
That's hardly "absolute" anything.
He also did not win the popular vote.
He has no mandate to do anything.
Anyone who has taken History 101 knows the political pendulum swings back and forth.
Whatever it is they *have* won't be for theirs for long. The Republicans have no *special* solutions to anything, and Trump most of all has no plan for anything.

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08-12-2016, 02:33 AM
RE: Donald Trump Time Magazine Person Of The Year
(07-12-2016 08:07 PM)yakherder Wrote:  
(07-12-2016 04:53 PM)Banjo Wrote:  Really?

Germany was a mess. He turned its economy around, then went all genocidal. Hitler is a textbook example of why we have term limits.

That's not to say I believe Trump will follow in his footsteps in either of those aspects. Just playing the "let's pretend Trump is Hitler" game.

So three cheers for atheistic Darwinian economic policies!!!

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08-12-2016, 02:38 AM
RE: Donald Trump Time Magazine Person Of The Year
(07-12-2016 11:34 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  No they don't. They must follow the Constitution and the laws of the land.

Well, there are those pesky Executive orders that are not subject to oversight. (not that I am aware of anyway).

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08-12-2016, 04:53 AM
RE: Donald Trump Time Magazine Person Of The Year
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08-12-2016, 07:26 AM
RE: Donald Trump Time Magazine Person Of The Year
(07-12-2016 11:34 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(07-12-2016 11:09 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Trump does not have absolute power.

Republicans however, do. And the people gave it to them.

No they don't. They must follow the Constitution and the laws of the land.
That's hardly "absolute" anything.
He also did not win the popular vote.
He has no mandate to do anything.
Anyone who has taken History 101 knows the political pendulum swings back and forth.
Whatever it is they *have* won't be for theirs for long. The Republicans have no *special* solutions to anything, and Trump most of all has no plan for anything.

You obviously don't understand how things work nowadays. You see, the constitution is now open to interpretation. It used to not be that way. But now even the high court is hyper partisan. We used to have supreme court decisions that were mostly 9-0, 8-1 or 7-2. Now they're almost always 5-4 and split along party lines. Trump didn't win the popular vote, but the republicans hold the senate, the house, the presidency (as well as the majority of state legislatures and governorships) and soon a 5-4 supreme court majority. That is a mandate. That is absolute power. They can pass pretty much anything in any state or federally except a few ultra liberal states where dems have control and the supreme court will back them. And democrat policies that get passed at the state level won't have much luck of passing muster at the supreme court for the next 30-50 years.

The democrats are out of luck for a generation.

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08-12-2016, 08:18 AM
RE: Donald Trump Time Magazine Person Of The Year
I hate to say it, but I think LDH is right on that one.

I also agree with Kyle at Secular Talk about why that is. Democrats (falsely claiming to be liberals) have surrendered their moral position to freakin' Donald Trump. They quit fighting for the working class. They quit standing up to big business who put profits over people. They rolled over for corporate interests until one can hardly tell the difference between the parties/candidates, except for the fact that the GOP has been in bed with the Religious Right for all that time on social issues. Now Trump comes along and is a political outsider, promises to stand up for the American worker, and claims he's going to clean up that political corruption at the federal level... it's obvious he's been lying his ass off, based on his appointments thus far, but for the normal blue-collar or other working-class voter, there was never a real question. I think that these workers have fucked themselves and this country, in the long run, but the simple fact that Trump was able to run on those issues without the Democrats saying, "No, moron, we've been fighting for workers all these years... look what we've done for them! We passed the _______ and _______ and the ______ Act, saving thousands of American jobs by interfering in the economy to stop pure Capitalism from harming our countrymen." is why the Dems lost big.

And the GOP's only answer available should have been: "But but but... Capitalism GOOD!"

But did we run a populist candidate?

Nope.

The Dems thought, "Let's put someone whose name (rightly or wrongly; I think the former) is practically synonymous with corruption and political insider cronyism!"





So we lost. We lost big. And we deserved to, because we didn't listen to what Americans wanted. I think Clinton still won the popular vote simply because so many of us were terrified of what Trump would do when he got in office... but it should have been no question, no contest, between the Democratic candidate and Donald Trump.

Listen to what Jon Stewart has to say about it, in this video, and Kyle's comments on it:




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08-12-2016, 08:27 AM
RE: Donald Trump Time Magazine Person Of The Year
(08-12-2016 07:26 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  The democrats are out of luck for a generation.

I'm predicting that Trump will be such a disaster even for the people that voted for him that 2018 elections will be better for Democrats than is currently being predicted. Generation indeed. Drinking Beverage

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08-12-2016, 08:36 AM
RE: Donald Trump Time Magazine Person Of The Year
(08-12-2016 08:27 AM)Impulse Wrote:  
(08-12-2016 07:26 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  The democrats are out of luck for a generation.

I'm predicting that Trump will be such a disaster even for the people that voted for him that 2018 elections will be better for Democrats than is currently being predicted. Generation indeed. Drinking Beverage

I'm less concerned with who's in the Oval Office than I am with the number of hyper-Conservative SCOTUS Justices he'll appoint, and the laws the now-GOP-dominated legislature passes, knowing it will be signed by President Trump.

I also agree that it will be a disaster... but how do you un-ass this fuckup, once those people have that much power for four years?

You're about to watch congress explode from total inactivity into a flurry of bill-passing. The Dems, except for a token few who will really fight, will make noise but won't really stand up to it too much because they're in the same deep pockets ($$$) as their colleagues across the aisle.

And despite all the talk, our infrastructure and manufacturing bases will continue to erode due to globalization (I'm not sure that can be stopped any more than climate change, at this point), as congress keeps passing bills that let international corporations continue to profit from the decline of the US. Like the allegorical frog in the slow-heating kettle, we've been slowly adjusting to the corruption... and now they are free to turn up the heat.

Even if we switch it off at the next available opportunity, we may already be cooked.

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08-12-2016, 08:37 AM
RE: Donald Trump Time Magazine Person Of The Year
I have to wonder if he doesn't get his fool ass impeached and convicted within his first month. Laugh out load

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