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22-05-2014, 07:46 PM
RE: Dr. Ordway's lecture
(22-05-2014 07:43 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  I abstain from all sexual acts =/= I have never had sex before

As long as I am alive I find it hard to think I am "missing out" on reality. I wake up to it every morning and go to sleep to it every night.

As you wish.

But I will still laught at you.

Quote:Freedom from delusion. Well I guess I am missing out on that if by freedom from delusion you imply freedom from the delusion that the universe just popped into existence uncaused, for nothing, by nothing and from nothing. And that we somehow evolved from some form of life that came to be by some natural occurrence to what we are now........

Uhh.....

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Which is what no scientist or atheist ever claimed.

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22-05-2014, 07:46 PM
RE: Dr. Ordway's lecture
(22-05-2014 06:38 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  In your mind:

missing only life I will ever have = abstaining from sex.


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That's great that you're abstaining from sex! Thumbsup


Never do it...it's icky. Smile

Now shoo fly!


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22-05-2014, 07:47 PM
RE: Dr. Ordway's lecture
(22-05-2014 07:45 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  Night night my friends. I am sleepy.

See you tomorrow if God wills.

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No.

Just die already.

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22-05-2014, 07:47 PM
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(22-05-2014 07:43 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(22-05-2014 07:35 PM)Chas Wrote:  We've already established one, haven't we?

And then there is reality and freedom from delusion.

I abstain from all sexual acts =/= I have never had sex before

As long as I am alive I find it hard to think I am "missing out" on reality. I wake up to it every morning and go to sleep to it every night.

Freedom from delusion. Well I guess I am missing out on that if by freedom from delusion you imply freedom from the delusion that the universe just popped into existence uncaused, for nothing, by nothing and from nothing. And that we somehow evolved from some form of life that came to be by some natural occurrence to what we are now........

Uhh.....

Facepalm

Thanks for admitting that you STILL don't get what's wrong with the Cosmological argument and basically religion is all a "place holder" (god of the gaps) explanation for you since you know so little about Physics and Evolutionary Biology.

Don't smack your head too hard. The few brain cells in there are endangered.

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22-05-2014, 07:56 PM
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(22-05-2014 07:34 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  as Monster_Riffs aka the Educated Englishman has already told me, life is grey, not black and white.

Indeed life is gray, but the point is that it has shades of gray. Fifty, to be exact.

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22-05-2014, 07:56 PM
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(22-05-2014 06:53 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  I stopped watching at :21:06 when she mentioned WLC and his brilliant cosmological argument. (I guess she's never bothered to read the arguments against what he's said). I nearly stopped when she mentioned "Darwinism" -- I suppose we should refer to physics as Newtonism too?

I will say, I disagree with her definition of faith.

She was, by her own words, someone who just didn't care about religion and decided her life was meaningless.

Atheists don't volunteer their time, donate money and don't care about anything? We know that's bullshit.

Wow at 21 minutes into it she doesn't sound like a former atheist, she sounds like she was just a self-centered bitch -- who decided to dismiss any type of rational thought in favor of mythology.

Going further since she never really considered religion, It doesn't sound like she cared much one way or another....I'd say she was just another non-believer trying to sell yet another book...

Oh that's right in the first couple minutes she asked people to buy her book and told them the publisher.

So... you're telling me this video was not worth your time, and would not be worth mine?

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22-05-2014, 07:58 PM
RE: Dr. Ordway's lecture
(22-05-2014 07:46 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(22-05-2014 06:38 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  In your mind:

missing only life I will ever have = abstaining from sex.


UnsureBlushDodgy

That's great that you're abstaining from sex! Thumbsup


Never do it...it's icky. Smile

Now shoo fly!

One can hope he doesn't reproduce.

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22-05-2014, 08:00 PM
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(22-05-2014 07:58 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(22-05-2014 07:46 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  That's great that you're abstaining from sex! Thumbsup


Never do it...it's icky. Smile

Now shoo fly!

One can hope he doesn't reproduce.

Shhhhhhh. Don't make him want to just out of spite. Tongue


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22-05-2014, 08:01 PM
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FYI Jezza, it's only called abstinence if it's a choice Drinking Beverage

I'll just play the 'can I help you' lick!!!
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22-05-2014, 08:01 PM
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(22-05-2014 06:37 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(22-05-2014 06:26 PM)Shadow Fox Wrote:  Is there any other reason a Christian would be lurking around here?

Yes. The reason I mentioned a day or two ago.

I am here researching, learning, interacting, asking questions, you know the usual things people do who like to learn more about counter-perspectives.

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Words and actions don't always match up. With you that seems to be the case as it pertains to this forum visit.

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