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11-12-2015, 12:32 PM
RE: Dutch Pranksters Swap Bible Cover with Koran Cover.
(11-12-2015 12:29 PM)jason_delisle Wrote:  
(11-12-2015 01:12 AM)Banjo Wrote:  Here ya go troll. The laws stand.

Matthew 5:17-20King James Version (KJV)

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Jesus Christ.
Do you not realize that this scripture explains why the OT law is not necessary?

Jesus said the law applies until it is fulfilled...right? But he also says one of the reasons why he came was to fulfill the law. Thus law is fulfilled and now it is not applicable.

Jesus also said he was coming back--so where is he? If someone says they are coming right back and then don't--why would you trust anything that person says?
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11-12-2015, 12:36 PM
RE: Dutch Pranksters Swap Bible Cover with Koran Cover.
(11-12-2015 12:32 PM)jennybee Wrote:  
(11-12-2015 12:29 PM)jason_delisle Wrote:  Do you not realize that this scripture explains why the OT law is not necessary?

Jesus said the law applies until it is fulfilled...right? But he also says one of the reasons why he came was to fulfill the law. Thus law is fulfilled and now it is not applicable.

Jesus also said he was coming back--so where is he? If someone says they are coming right back and then don't--why would you trust anything that person says?
Mark 13:32

But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Did he really say "I will be right back?";)
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11-12-2015, 12:39 PM
RE: Dutch Pranksters Swap Bible Cover with Koran Cover.
(11-12-2015 12:36 PM)jason_delisle Wrote:  
(11-12-2015 12:32 PM)jennybee Wrote:  Jesus also said he was coming back--so where is he? If someone says they are coming right back and then don't--why would you trust anything that person says?
Mark 13:32

But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Did he really say "I will be right back?";)

I'd say so...

“For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.“ (Matthew 16: 27, 28)

Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near; so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door. Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.“ (Matthew 24: 25-34)

“Then they will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory. And then He will send forth the angels, and will gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest end of the earth to the farthest end of heaven. Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near. Even so, you too, when you see these things happening, recognize that He is near, right at the door. Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place…“ (Mark 13:26-30)

“Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. But when these things begin to take place, straighten up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near. Then He told them a parable: Behold the fig tree and all the trees; as soon as they put forth leaves, you see it and know for yourselves that summer is now near. So you also, when you see these things happening, recognize that the kingdom of God is near. Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all things take place.“ (Luke 21:27-32)

But Jesus kept silent and the high priest said to Him, “I adjure you by the living God, that you tell us whether you are the Christ, the Son of God.” Jesus said to him, “You have said it yourself; nevertheless I tell you, hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.“” (Matthew 26: 63, 64)

Do not seek a wife. This is what I mean, brothers: the appointed time has grown very short. From now on, let those who have wives live as though they had none, and those who mourn as though they were not mourning, and those who rejoice as though they were not rejoicing, and those who buy as though they had no goods, and those who deal with the world as though they had no dealings with it. For the present form of this world is passing away.” (1 Corinthians 7:27,29-31)
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11-12-2015, 12:40 PM
RE: Dutch Pranksters Swap Bible Cover with Koran Cover.
By the way, you know all of this is apocalyptic literature--which was quite prevalent at the time, don't you?
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11-12-2015, 12:41 PM
RE: Dutch Pranksters Swap Bible Cover with Koran Cover.
(07-12-2015 02:41 PM)jason_delisle Wrote:  
(07-12-2015 12:33 PM)Nurse Wrote:  How about first prove your God exists. Then we can talk about why such a creature that likes little boy foreskins deserves to be worshipped.
Obviously he didn't like them because he commanded them to be cut off. Shy

So I take it you're not a proponent of intelligent design?
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11-12-2015, 12:41 PM
RE: Dutch Pranksters Swap Bible Cover with Koran Cover.
(11-12-2015 12:29 PM)jason_delisle Wrote:  
(11-12-2015 01:12 AM)Banjo Wrote:  Here ya go troll. The laws stand.

Matthew 5:17-20King James Version (KJV)

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Jesus Christ.
Do you not realize that this scripture explains why the OT law is not necessary?

Jesus said the law applies until it is fulfilled...right? But he also says one of the reasons why he came was to fulfill the law. Thus law is fulfilled and now it is not applicable.

Except that verse 18 says that there is more to come before all is fulfilled and "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law". He also said elsewhere that people should keep the commandments which would have to mean that the law was still in effect.

The only way to make sense of it if you assume it is true would be to say that the second coming will be when Jesus actually finishes his assignment and fulfills the law (whatever the hell that actually means). Of course, if you don't start with that assumption then it is just a confused piece of fan fiction written decades after the events to try to explain why the world didn't end when they thought it would.

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11-12-2015, 12:55 PM
RE: Dutch Pranksters Swap Bible Cover with Koran Cover.
(11-12-2015 12:41 PM)unfogged Wrote:  
(11-12-2015 12:29 PM)jason_delisle Wrote:  Do you not realize that this scripture explains why the OT law is not necessary?

Jesus said the law applies until it is fulfilled...right? But he also says one of the reasons why he came was to fulfill the law. Thus law is fulfilled and now it is not applicable.

Except that verse 18 says that there is more to come before all is fulfilled and "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law". He also said elsewhere that people should keep the commandments which would have to mean that the law was still in effect.

The only way to make sense of it if you assume it is true would be to say that the second coming will be when Jesus actually finishes his assignment and fulfills the law (whatever the hell that actually means). Of course, if you don't start with that assumption then it is just a confused piece of fan fiction written decades after the events to try to explain why the world didn't end when they thought it would.

Right--but Christians like to white that part out. Technically until Revelation happens--the law is still in effect.
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11-12-2015, 01:03 PM
RE: Dutch Pranksters Swap Bible Cover with Koran Cover.
(11-12-2015 12:55 PM)jennybee Wrote:  Right--but Christians like to white that part out. Technically until Revelation happens--the law is still in effect.

Except for eating shellfish and wearing mixed fabrics, of course.

I'll have to see if I can get a loan from a Christian bank so I can have it forgiven when the seventh year comes around.

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11-12-2015, 01:42 PM
RE: Dutch Pranksters Swap Bible Cover with Koran Cover.
(11-12-2015 12:41 PM)unfogged Wrote:  
(11-12-2015 12:29 PM)jason_delisle Wrote:  Do you not realize that this scripture explains why the OT law is not necessary?

Jesus said the law applies until it is fulfilled...right? But he also says one of the reasons why he came was to fulfill the law. Thus law is fulfilled and now it is not applicable.

Except that verse 18 says that there is more to come before all is fulfilled and "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law". He also said elsewhere that people should keep the commandments which would have to mean that the law was still in effect.

The only way to make sense of it if you assume it is true would be to say that the second coming will be when Jesus actually finishes his assignment and fulfills the law (whatever the hell that actually means). Of course, if you don't start with that assumption then it is just a confused piece of fan fiction written decades after the events to try to explain why the world didn't end when they thought it would.
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11-12-2015, 01:44 PM
RE: Dutch Pranksters Swap Bible Cover with Koran Cover.
(11-12-2015 01:03 PM)unfogged Wrote:  
(11-12-2015 12:55 PM)jennybee Wrote:  Right--but Christians like to white that part out. Technically until Revelation happens--the law is still in effect.

Except for eating shellfish and wearing mixed fabrics, of course.

I'll have to see if I can get a loan from a Christian bank so I can have it forgiven when the seventh year comes around.
Acts 10:15 "...Do not call anything impure what God has made clean."
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