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05-07-2017, 04:38 AM
RE: EPA to officially challenge climate change?
(05-07-2017 04:32 AM)tomilay Wrote:  
(04-07-2017 09:46 PM)Thoreauvian Wrote:  We can't undo the damage already done, but we can still prevent worse damage. Climate change is a very difficult, very complex, slow-moving problem with built-in delays between causes and effects, so it will be a real challenge for humanity. But there are also plenty of things we can do to slow it down. It's irresponsible not to even try.

It's also evidence, on some level, that we can't even terraform earth itself.

I wonder if it wouldn't be easier to terraform a planet which doesn't already have an atmosphere though.

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05-07-2017, 05:24 AM
RE: EPA to officially challenge climate change?
(05-07-2017 04:32 AM)tomilay Wrote:  
(04-07-2017 09:46 PM)Thoreauvian Wrote:  We can't undo the damage already done, but we can still prevent worse damage. Climate change is a very difficult, very complex, slow-moving problem with built-in delays between causes and effects, so it will be a real challenge for humanity. But there are also plenty of things we can do to slow it down. It's irresponsible not to even try.

It's also evidence, on some level, that we can't even terraform earth itself.

But we are making progress at cytheroforming it

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05-07-2017, 08:02 AM
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(04-07-2017 09:46 PM)Thoreauvian Wrote:  
(04-07-2017 09:37 PM)onlinebiker Wrote:  If you jump off a 30 story building, everthing is fine as you pass the 10th story,.....

Even if you know there's a problem ahead, it's not likely to change the upcoming outcome.........

The insistence that all problems have a solution is quite like that..

We can't undo the damage already done, but we can still prevent worse damage. Climate change is a very difficult, very complex, slow-moving problem with built-in delays between causes and effects, so it will be a real challenge for humanity. But there are also plenty of things we can do to slow it down. It's irresponsible not to even try.

It's rather obvious that the quickest, longest lasting solution to man- made climate change is to have less people. People are too used to the pyramid scheme of ever increasing population as a basis for society to function. They will use contorted logic to justify pumping out more kids, till we hit an event horizon of the environ!ment being unable to sustain the population base. A die-off will follow.

I suspect this has happened many times before in the planet,'s history.

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05-07-2017, 08:55 AM
RE: EPA to officially challenge climate change?
That isn't so much the government agency doing that, but the Trump administration is purging the sane in it and replacing it with rubber stamp bots.

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05-07-2017, 09:13 AM
RE: EPA to officially challenge climate change?
(05-07-2017 04:38 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(05-07-2017 04:32 AM)tomilay Wrote:  It's also evidence, on some level, that we can't even terraform earth itself.

I wonder if it wouldn't be easier to terraform a planet which doesn't already have an atmosphere though.

That sounds even harder. More likely we are stuck with sealed terrariums.

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05-07-2017, 09:15 AM
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(05-07-2017 05:24 AM)unfogged Wrote:  
(05-07-2017 04:32 AM)tomilay Wrote:  It's also evidence, on some level, that we can't even terraform earth itself.

But we are making progress at cytheroforming it

What is cytheroforming? It sounds like real word, but I can't find any explanation.

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05-07-2017, 09:27 AM
RE: EPA to officially challenge climate change?
(05-07-2017 09:15 AM)tomilay Wrote:  
(05-07-2017 05:24 AM)unfogged Wrote:  But we are making progress at cytheroforming it

What is cytheroforming? It sounds like real word, but I can't find any explanation.

Terraforming would be making a planet more like Earth
Cytheroforming would be making it more like Venus

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05-07-2017, 09:31 AM
RE: EPA to officially challenge climate change?
(05-07-2017 08:02 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  
(04-07-2017 09:46 PM)Thoreauvian Wrote:  We can't undo the damage already done, but we can still prevent worse damage. Climate change is a very difficult, very complex, slow-moving problem with built-in delays between causes and effects, so it will be a real challenge for humanity. But there are also plenty of things we can do to slow it down. It's irresponsible not to even try.

It's rather obvious that the quickest, longest lasting solution to man- made climate change is to have less people. People are too used to the pyramid scheme of ever increasing population as a basis for society to function. They will use contorted logic to justify pumping out more kids, till we hit an event horizon of the environ!ment being unable to sustain the population base. A die-off will follow.

I suspect this has happened many times before in the planet,'s history.

Why don't we just thin the herd to prevent starvation?

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05-07-2017, 09:59 AM
RE: EPA to officially challenge climate change?
(05-07-2017 08:02 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  
(04-07-2017 09:46 PM)Thoreauvian Wrote:  We can't undo the damage already done, but we can still prevent worse damage. Climate change is a very difficult, very complex, slow-moving problem with built-in delays between causes and effects, so it will be a real challenge for humanity. But there are also plenty of things we can do to slow it down. It's irresponsible not to even try.

It's rather obvious that the quickest, longest lasting solution to man- made climate change is to have less people. People are too used to the pyramid scheme of ever increasing population as a basis for society to function. They will use contorted logic to justify pumping out more kids, till we hit an event horizon of the environ!ment being unable to sustain the population base. A die-off will follow.

I suspect this has happened many times before in the planet,'s history.

It hasn't happened in human history, due to climate change, (although it did happen in Europe due to the Black Death), (30 to 50 % of Europe's population).

Actually the quickest longest lasting solution would be to build industrial scale removal industries based on removing CO-2 from the atmosphere, (which does work, and could replace oil). http://globalthermostat.com/

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05-07-2017, 10:15 AM
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(05-07-2017 09:59 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(05-07-2017 08:02 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  It's rather obvious that the quickest, longest lasting solution to man- made climate change is to have less people. People are too used to the pyramid scheme of ever increasing population as a basis for society to function. They will use contorted logic to justify pumping out more kids, till we hit an event horizon of the environ!ment being unable to sustain the population base. A die-off will follow.

I suspect this has happened many times before in the planet,'s history.

It hasn't happened in human history, due to climate change, (although it did happen in Europe due to the Black Death), (30 to 50 % of Europe's population).

Actually the quickest longest lasting solution would be to build industrial scale removal industries based on removing CO-2 from the atmosphere, (which does work, and could replace oil). http://globalthermostat.com/

I disagree.

It's all about the free lunch.

There isn't one.

Your idea would require massive amounts of energy. Where is it going to come from?

My idea ( reduction of population) means less CO2 production and less energy consumption. Let the trees and grass grow back, and they'll absorb even more.


Overpopulation isd never beneficial.

Except to big business looking for more consumers.

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