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24-04-2012, 07:40 PM
Early stars
According to studies right after the big bang there was only hydrogen because it's the simplest element, in order to make more complicated elements like carbon stars had to form and die, stars converted hydrogen to helium and when they imploded the immense pressure and heat in the core made it a perfect place to make the first 26 elements. The other elements can only be made in supernovas, that is what I heard and read.

Now my question is, does that mean the early stars were only formed with hydrogen? I'm far from a scientist but I would think a star needs some more elements than just one to be formed. Can anyone explain this to me?

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24-04-2012, 08:16 PM
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(24-04-2012 07:40 PM)Crusher Wrote:  According to studies right after the big bang there was only hydrogen because it's the simplest element, in order to make more complicated elements like carbon stars had to form and die, stars converted hydrogen to helium and when they imploded the immense pressure and heat in the core made it a perfect place to make the first 26 elements. The other elements can only be made in supernovas, that is what I heard and read.

Now my question is, does that mean the early stars were only formed with hydrogen? I'm far from a scientist but I would think a star needs some more elements than just one to be formed. Can anyone explain this to me?
Only hydrogen is needed. It fuses under pressure to form helium.

Why do you believe other elements are necessary?

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24-04-2012, 08:31 PM (This post was last modified: 25-04-2012 04:25 AM by Bucky Ball.)
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(24-04-2012 08:16 PM)Chas Wrote:  Only hydrogen is needed. It fuses under pressure to form helium.
Why do you believe other elements are necessary?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernova
The iron atom, (at the core of every hemoglobin molecule in your blood stream), was formed, (only) in a Supernova. Tongue
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24-04-2012, 08:50 PM
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Netflix has a Stephen Hawking series that does a great job explaining it.
Not my area of expertise but I thought it was cool that when Iron forms, it kills the fusion and kills the star, while we cant live without it.
Fun series if you can catch it.

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24-04-2012, 09:03 PM
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(24-04-2012 08:50 PM)Debzilla Wrote:  Netflix has a Stephen Hawking series that does a great job explaining it.
Not my area of expertise but I thought it was cool that when Iron forms, it kills the fusion and kills the star, while we cant live without it.
Fun series if you can catch it.


Exactly. The iron core collapses, and causes the gravitational collapse. So cool. http://flash.uchicago.edu/~calder/core.html

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24-04-2012, 09:44 PM
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(24-04-2012 08:16 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(24-04-2012 07:40 PM)Crusher Wrote:  According to studies right after the big bang there was only hydrogen because it's the simplest element, in order to make more complicated elements like carbon stars had to form and die, stars converted hydrogen to helium and when they imploded the immense pressure and heat in the core made it a perfect place to make the first 26 elements. The other elements can only be made in supernovas, that is what I heard and read.

Now my question is, does that mean the early stars were only formed with hydrogen? I'm far from a scientist but I would think a star needs some more elements than just one to be formed. Can anyone explain this to me?
Only hydrogen is needed. It fuses under pressure to form helium.

Why do you believe other elements are necessary?
I'm not sure the question was are they necessary, but where do they come from if the first stars were made only from hydrogen?

And the answer is...the OP answered his own question...
Supernovas seem to have taken care of the elements not developed by the hydrogen suns at the Big Bang.

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25-04-2012, 04:17 AM
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(24-04-2012 08:16 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(24-04-2012 07:40 PM)Crusher Wrote:  According to studies right after the big bang there was only hydrogen because it's the simplest element, in order to make more complicated elements like carbon stars had to form and die, stars converted hydrogen to helium and when they imploded the immense pressure and heat in the core made it a perfect place to make the first 26 elements. The other elements can only be made in supernovas, that is what I heard and read.

Now my question is, does that mean the early stars were only formed with hydrogen? I'm far from a scientist but I would think a star needs some more elements than just one to be formed. Can anyone explain this to me?
Only hydrogen is needed. It fuses under pressure to form helium.

Why do you believe other elements are necessary?
Ok, that's all i wanted to know :3

Like I said I'm not a scientist.

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25-04-2012, 02:12 PM
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(24-04-2012 09:03 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(24-04-2012 08:50 PM)Debzilla Wrote:  Not my area of expertise but I thought it was cool that when Iron forms, it kills the fusion and kills the star, while we cant live without it.
Exactly. The iron core collapses, and causes the gravitational collapse. So cool. http://flash.uchicago.edu/~calder/core.html
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25-04-2012, 02:39 PM
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(25-04-2012 02:12 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(24-04-2012 09:03 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Exactly. The iron core collapses, and causes the gravitational collapse. So cool. http://flash.uchicago.edu/~calder/core.html
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Actually they do make that argument via the Laws of Physics that allows this to happen.
Oddly enough the answer to that is the topic right beside this one.
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25-04-2012, 03:47 PM (This post was last modified: 25-04-2012 05:23 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Early stars
(25-04-2012 02:12 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(24-04-2012 09:03 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Exactly. The iron core collapses, and causes the gravitational collapse. So cool. http://flash.uchicago.edu/~calder/core.html
Clearly, this is irreducibly complex and intelligently designed. Bowing

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