Easter is coming, I want to understand this Jesus story
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01-04-2014, 09:39 AM
Easter is coming, I want to understand this Jesus story
Today you get to play "the theist". I haven't read the bible but I understand the stories for the most part can you please explain this to me, but like a Xtian would not an atheist. Then debunk it after you have said your theist bit.

Jesus is gods son.

We sin, so he died so our sins are forgiven.
Why die specifically.
What part of the death or dying means our sins are now ok.
I just don't get the tit for tat part. Why does one(sin) have any relevence to the other(death of jesus). Why does it make it all better?
I get how you break the law and you go to prison for 2 years and now you are free, no more punishment
Why death of jesus though?
Why not do other things instead to forgive our sins? Make the sun brighter.
Make it rain all spring?
Make it cold during winter?
Make the grass grow?
What part of Jesus dying makes sense?
Why not just simply forgive our sins because god wants to?

And he came back to life, why did he need to come back to life? He still supposed to be alive right, or did he die a second time. Is he in heaven now? Why no talk of his second death? Why not just go to heaven the first time, why come back to life at all, just stay dead?

So I may be way off here since I don't completely know the story? Please show me where I'm wrong so I can understand?
Please answer as a theist would first or (as the story goes).
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01-04-2014, 09:45 AM
RE: Easter is coming, I want to understand this Jesus story
OK

... as a theist...

It's magic!

Therefore: God!

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01-04-2014, 09:50 AM
RE: Easter is coming, I want to understand this Jesus story
Wow that empty, lol. Figures.

I'm thinking I may ask this question with a family member over the long weekend. Want to be prepared for their answer so I can ask more. I want to gently sprinkle some thought dust on them so they go home thinking about it. Without being offensive, just asking questions.
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01-04-2014, 10:18 AM
RE: Easter is coming, I want to understand this Jesus story
This is what I say both as the "Theist" and as an Atheist.

[Image: bunny-jesus.jpg]

[Edit: Sorry, I didn't actually read your post. What was the question?]

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01-04-2014, 10:22 AM
RE: Easter is coming, I want to understand this Jesus story
(01-04-2014 09:39 AM)proplayer44 Wrote:  ...Why not just simply forgive our sins because god wants to?
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Because "God's" bound by laws that even he cannot bend, dispite being "God"...apparently.....

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01-04-2014, 10:39 AM (This post was last modified: 01-04-2014 10:44 AM by Drunkin Druid.)
RE: Easter is coming, I want to understand this Jesus story
God got some guys to kick the shit out of the human version of himself and pin him to a cross as a sacrifice (great story to tell your kids). Then god died but he didn't really die so there wasn't actually a sacrifice. Because of this a magic rabbit brings us chocolate eggs.
What's to explain?
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01-04-2014, 10:43 AM
RE: Easter is coming, I want to understand this Jesus story
(01-04-2014 10:18 AM)Raptor Jesus Wrote:  This is what I say both as the "Theist" and as an Atheist.

[Image: bunny-jesus.jpg]

[Edit: Sorry, I didn't actually read your post. What was the question?]

Best Easter picture ever!

"The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species." - Christopher Hitchens

"Remember kids, if you don't sin, then Jesus died for nothing. Have a great day!" - Ricky Gervais
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01-04-2014, 10:46 AM
RE: Easter is coming, I want to understand this Jesus story
(01-04-2014 10:18 AM)Raptor Jesus Wrote:  This is what I say both as the "Theist" and as an Atheist.

[Image: bunny-jesus.jpg]

[Edit: Sorry, I didn't actually read your post. What was the question?]

Jesus was only 33, why do those ones look so old and frail? Are they the zombie Jesus's?
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01-04-2014, 10:49 AM
RE: Easter is coming, I want to understand this Jesus story
Easter has absolutely nothing to do with Jesus. As is common with religion, it always has to infiltrate celebrations by planting its own rendition of a magical deity into it.
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01-04-2014, 10:49 AM
RE: Easter is coming, I want to understand this Jesus story
(01-04-2014 10:46 AM)natachan Wrote:  
(01-04-2014 10:18 AM)Raptor Jesus Wrote:  This is what I say both as the "Theist" and as an Atheist.

[Image: bunny-jesus.jpg]

[Edit: Sorry, I didn't actually read your post. What was the question?]

Jesus was only 33, why do those ones look so old and frail? Are they the zombie Jesus's?

I assume so.

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