Education vs Indoctrination
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04-04-2015, 02:10 PM
Education vs Indoctrination
Since no one here, including Partriot10mm, think religious woo is a good thing and granting the hypothesis of moral decline in the modern world for whatever reason; is there much substantial documentation on what does work in raising children into acceptably ethical adults? Is child level religious-type indoctrination (without the fiction and for their own good) the only way to effect mass moral training? From a historical perspective, religious indoctrination is the only system that has been tried. Primary education does not explicitly teach ethical or moral precepts leaving that to the churches or the parents (some parents are not good teachers). Any thoughts? Any information?
Why are not education methods more rigorous, effective and broadly accepted? What level of the principal of free thought must be discarded in order to properly condition children to successfully survive into adulthood and the ability to do real critical thinking?

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04-04-2015, 02:28 PM
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There is no universal standard for what is or isn't ethically right. Right and wrong is a judgement based on culture, culture is not something one just pieces together based on random facts they accumulate. They must be indoctrinated For that reason, yes it is beneficial for us to be indoctrinated into something. It doesn't necessarily have to be religion, but without consistency there is chaos. Something like the way of thinking that dominates human culture in Star Trek might be more ideal Tongue

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27-01-2017, 06:11 AM
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27-01-2017, 09:01 AM
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I don't accept that there is any moral decline or that children without adult guidance must necessarily devolve into Lord of the Flies behavior.

Good education should emphasize critical thinking, individual and cooperative problem-solving, and knowledge acquisition across a range of topics (history, science, economics, arts, and literature). This kind of education teaches students what societies and people have done when faced with ethical problems in the past, gives them the tools to critically analyze those solutions, and encourages them to come up with new solutions of their own.

The most difficult and important ethical task, IMO, is to transcend the tribal, us-versus-them perspective and is not handled well by religions generally.
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28-01-2017, 04:36 PM
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